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It's not the Christian Republic of America, so why is it those who are religious can hold the bodies of secular women and of other religions hostage?

I see the abortion debate as a religious minority forcing their views on an entire country and I don't feel that's right.
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Harriet03 · 41-45, F
"Religion" has always controlled & oppressed women!!

You're absolutely right about America not being a Christian Republic

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@Harriet03 Just another interesting observation. Two of the 4 reference Islam (using different terms of the day) and yet the right loves to pretend it is some new and foreign thing "invading" their Christian nation.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Harriet03 So move to Afghanistan, lots of freedom for you there
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@sunsporter1649 76% of Americans don't want Roe v Wade overturned.
Democracy is dead in America, you are becoming Afghanistan.
No need to move!!
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Harriet03 Then why do you approve and support the demonocrat party?
@sunsporter1649 It is your band of insane lunatics who brought that about. But as always the motto of the right is "It's someone else's fault."
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@sunsporter1649 I don't!!

BTW "demoncrat" very mature! 🤦‍♀️
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow you're wrong there. "It's someone else's fault" has always been a Leftwing saying. Not rightwing as you suggest.
@dakotaviper The facts prove otherwise.
@dakotaviper It is the right that wants to turn the US into an evangelical version of Saudi Arabia aka Vanilla ISIS.
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow not really, since over 70% of the Baptists here in the USA are Democrat.
@dakotaviper Look at Mike Pence. He was VP and he is a 7 mountain Dominionist and not the only ones. Their publicly stated goal is to turn the US into a theocracy. And if you read further, step two is to use the US to impose a global evangelical theocracy. That is where the dominionist part comes from in the name.
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow hate to tell you this, but I know Mike Pence personally and and don't believe everything you hear or read about him. His family ran Kiel Brothers Oil Company back before 2000 in the Columbus, Indiana area. Which is where I'm originally from. Pence is about as moderate as they come. That's why he was chosen to be Trump's VP.
@dakotaviper That was 2 decades ago. Alot can change. Even if one individual is the a moderate this group of people who are a big influence in the GOP are definitely not. And their end goal is literally a global crusade.
@dakotaviper He was also chosen to get the evangelicals on board which also doesn't line up with being a moderate.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@dakotaviper ahh moderate as in outspokenly anti-gay?
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow the end goal of the Democrats is a Socialist Crusade. But the real end goal is to divide and conquer the USA. Too many people on both sides are selling us out to outside interests. You may think Pence was chosen to get the evangelicals on board since that is what you've been fed, but the reality is that Pence is one of the 'Good Ole Boys' of the US Political spectrum. They're very good at double-speak. As I said, I know him. Unfortunately, quite well in fact. Trust me on that.
@dakotaviper [quote]the end goal of the Democrats is a Socialist Crusade. [/quote]

That is just factually wrong. Even Bernie is barely left of center. Nobody in the Democratic party is a socialist. 🤣 And Biden is basically an 80s Republican.


And no, Pence was chosen for exactly that reason. I was not "fed" anything. But you are repeating alot of the same nonsense from Fox News that everyone left of Donald Trump is a communist.


Pence was brought on to sell Trump to the evangelicals. Nobody thought Trump would actually convince them he was one of them, even though he can't even figure out which way a book works in the English speaking world. Turns out the evangelicals are more gullible than anyone thought.

Only one side is embracing fascism and religious theocracy. This is not a "both sides" issue.

Only one side is issuing death threats to anyone who is not a white Protestant "Christian."

Again, you claimed you knew him 20 years ago. Moderates don't generally join religious extremist groups for kicks. Perhaps you don't know him the way you think you do.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow G0 pass that marxist bullschiff of yours on somebody who might believe it.

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dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Death Threats? Hmmm!
Obama said the Right was the Enemy.
Hillary said that the Right was a Basket of Deplorables.
Maxine said attack them and that they're not welcome here.
I can go on and on about what the Left has said about the Right.
But what's the point. All you care about is your point of view and to hell with anyone that disagrees with you.
But do understand this, I do know Pence and he hasn't changed. And I trust him about as far as I can throw him. Which isn't far. A leopard doesn't change his spots.
@dakotaviper Another false equivalence whataboutism.

Thanks to MTG and Boebert Ilhan Omar is getting death threats. Paul Gosar apparently has fantasies of murdering AOC and MTG said Pelosi needs to take a bullet to the head.

This is not a game and you seem determined to make excuses for extremists with violent intentions.

And you clearly don't even know what "left" means.


Well if a leopard doesn't change their spots I guess he is just good at playing harmless.

You don't join a religious extremist group that wants global holy war because you like the coffee.
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@Adaydreambeliever hate to tell you this, but over 90% of Southern Baptists are anti-gay. Plus they also vote Democrat.
@dakotaviper Baptist democrats? Someone should tell them that. They are the loudest ones going on about how Trump is Jesus 2.0 and Biden is the antichrist.
@dakotaviper The NIFB clearly never got the message.
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow you do know that the biggest religious extremist group is not Christian. They are your favored Muslims though. And of course I know it's not a game, but you're constantly making excuses for your own extremists. So carry on, since it's your way and only your way. I'm done with this thread.