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Johnson and Johnson pauses vaccine

This is exactly why I WILL NOT get any vaccine for this fabricated Covid Bullshit.
Why get a vaccine for something that has a 99.8 % recovery rate
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Because herd immunity. Half a million dead Americans not enough for you?
SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
Speaking of sheep:

@Vegasfor30
Northwest · M
@OggggO [quote]Is it just me or has the quality of right-wing trolls on this site somehow managed to go down this year, despite all evidence that it was already at rock bottom?[/quote]

They're getting a bit sloppy, but keep in mind that you may be blocked by most of them (I am), so we can the bottom of the barrel.
monte3 · 70-79, M
@OggggO regarding tne drop in quality of right wing nut 🥜s , we may be dealing with the third string as so many have left. I mean I am sure we all missBudwick’s analysis analysis and hippy joe and Horace. Well maybe they were never that good...
Northwest · M
[quote]Why get a vaccine for something that has a 99.8 % recovery rate[/quote]

7 Million people were administered the J&J vaccine in the US. 6 people developed serious blood clots. No deaths. That would be 0.85 per million, making it a 99.999914285714286% success.

Also, if you read about why these blood clots developed, you will discover that those affected would have also developed these blood clots had they gotten infected with Covid.

The effort to uncover why some people were affected, allowed scientists to identify an issue that's not related to the vaccine, and kicked off an effort to find a solution for it. Had it not been for the vaccine reaction, people would be dying from this extremely rare genetic condition, and listed as dying from something else.

If we do not stop the spread, then more variants will develop and the world will never reach herd immunity. It's not about you, it's about the variant that you help develop/spread, if you get sick and survive.
Riiiight. So millions just dropped dead from the killing curse.


So I am assuming you have no problem volunteering in the morgues without any protection.


Sadly there is no vaccine for stupidity.
SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Vegasfor30 Oh no, not a man bun accusation my poor feelies 🤣
@Vegasfor30 Then your savior Trump is a sheeple because he had the vaccine in January.
bowman81 · M
6 women with blood clots out of 6.8 million people who have had the J&J Vaccine. I wonder how many people in a random group of 6.8 million people get blood clots in any given year? I wonder if these women had any condition that made them prone to getting blood clots regardless of the vaccine?
No one knows if there is a connection between the vaccine or not....that is why they are pausing and making sure.

Why get any vaccine? Flu shot, measles, chicken pox, or polio? The reason is pretty simple, to cut down the chances that you will get sick.

You are free to refuse the vaccine, but I can't help but think of the old story about Chicken Little...."the sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!" Vaccines and inoculations are not the end of the civilized world as we know it.
OggggO · 36-40, M
6 people out of 7 million developed a rare clotting problem after receiving the vaccine. 6. So scary.
@OggggO You are more likely to die from a TV falling on your head.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
6 people also got sick from eating steak. I guess you are giving steak now too.
When this guy figured it out before you. Time to re-assess.
monte3 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow entertaining yes but also disturbing. And alarming..
@monte3 For sure. Other ex Q Anon people speak and sound very much like ex scientologist cult members.
monte3 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow the documentary needs an epilogue where Q people that he has interviewed reflect on a world where the q drops have been proved meaningless.
I am guessing they find a way to square the circle and still believe.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Thats fine with me. Modern society is not really equipped to provide reliable avenues for Darwinism to weed out the inferior lines. Yours will do nicely.
Frank52 · 70-79, M
@SevIsPamprinYouAlways One of the best cartoons on the subject I have seen.
Vegasfor30 · 61-69, M
Just like a Democratic, you a follower and know nothing about science
Look back at how much the CDC, WHO and health departments around the country have flip-flopped back-and-forth about Covid. When their coding every element has Covid in the hospitals, because they receive more money. Of course the Covid numbers are going to be higher. Where is your logic?
monte3 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow 🤣🤣🤣. Wasn’t that Copeland video hilarious? The science of the right...
@monte3 RIght up there with Kat Kerr trying to hit a hurricane with a stick.
SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
“Just like a democratic “

[image deleted]@Vegasfor30
WalksWith · 56-60, F
So...you like being a disease infected moron?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@WalksWith And subject to getting covid, too. 😉
The vaccines out there are not the panacea they want us to believe they are. No I don’t need a blood clot that can do
Me more harm than covid.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@soar2newhighs There have been six cases of blood clots in 6.8 million people vaccinated with the J&J vaccine. Covid has killed over 566,000 out of 31,208,000 cases in the US. So let's do the math you are so obviously incapable of performing. You should have paid attention in school.

You have a one in 1.13 million chance of getting a blood clot from taking the J&J vaccine.

You have a one in 55 chance of dying from covid if you contract it.

So obviously, you choose the option that is literally more than 20,500 times worse. What a fool.
Northwest · M
@soar2newhighs [quote]The vaccines out there are not the panacea they want us to believe they are. No I don’t need a blood clot that can do
Me more harm than covid.[/quote]

I really hope you don't have this extremely rare genetic disorder. If you do, then you should know a couple of things:

1. The vaccine did not cause it. You were born with.

2. Thanks to the research done by the vaccine makers, and the scientific community, the root cause is now identified, and if you do not get vaccinated, using an alternate vaccine, then if you do get Covid-19, it is going to attack your genetic vulnerability, and cause these blood clots to form. Except that in this case, you will not be monitored.
@soar2newhighs If you get covid there is a far higher chance that it’ll cause a blood clot than that you’ll get one from having the vaccine so if you really don’t want a blood clot , do yourself and everyone else a favour and get yourself vaccinated.
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
This was a red flag to begin with. It has a 65% efficacy rate and they are using it for people who don’t seek medical attention ordinarily so it’s your homeless, clinic people, frequent fliers at the ER. Anything was better than nothing for them.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Keepitsimple Well, it's a whole different matter if you had another/better option to pick from.
RedBaron · M
@Elessar On what planet is 45% the inverse of 65%? Where I went to school, here on Earth, it's 35%.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@RedBaron lol, true. I've just taken Ted's number without thinking too much about it.
Eddiesolds · 61-69, M
I'd like to know the poison they are putting in it
Eddiesolds · 61-69, M
@Elessar it's all good. I'm way too busy for school. Lol!
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Eddiesolds Good, then maybe avoid making nonsensical implications such as poison in the vaccines that by your admission you don't have the competencies to assess, lol
Eddiesolds · 61-69, M
@Elessar ya ok
monte3 · 70-79, M
Where did this 99.8% reciovery rate idiocy come from? Since it is the second time a rightist has posted the claim I assume some excellent 🙄 source quoted it. At my age group and per Economist Magazine the fatality rate is 4%. Just saying...
monte3 · 70-79, M
@Vegasfor30 for a guy that claims he understands science claiming the 1 to 19 as the number is a little bogus, just saying
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@monte3 The national death rate from covid for the US is about 1.81%. Of course, that is acceptable to indoctrinated right wing nuts with no scientific understanding. But they are freaking out about a one in 1.13 million chance of developing a blood clot, when the six cases aren't definitively linked to the J&J vaccine. I guess you can't fix stupid.
OggggO · 36-40, M
@Vegasfor30 Wow, you are hilariously bad at this. You posted a screen shot, from an article you clearly didn't read, summarizing an unspecified tweet with no proof of it's claims about where those numbers came from. Meanwhile, over in reality:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/22/tweets/viral-tweet-cites-made-cdc-covid-19-survival-rates/

Also, you conflate survival and recovery, which are not the same thing.
Elessar · 26-30, M
Yeah, they've suspended it to investigate an adverse effect with an incidence of 1 : 1,000,000; mostly young/fertile women.

If that's concerning enough for you to not want to take the risk, seal yourself in your house and cover any and every wall with /rubber/whatever because you have far greater chances at dying of anything else literally everyday.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Elessar · 26-30, M
@QuixoticSoul The guy in this meme (the chin I guess?) always reminds me of Quentin Tarantino 🥴
badminton · 61-69, MVIP
I just got a J&J vaccine shot yesterday. If anything bad develops I'll post it.
SW-User
That recovery rate is considerably lower in your age group though
SW-User
@OggggO I know, and assuming that number was correct under special conditions ~ like in some countries among young people ~ still his age group is considered moderate to high risk as it is. The risk multiplies if the person is not totally healthy. I mean vaccines ~ even if they carry a very small risk with rare serious side effects ~ are still far, far safer than COVID19 itself in the grand scheme of things.
SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Who fabricated it?
SW-User
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
It's a bullshit stat.
Confined · 56-60, M
5% of all the people vaccinated have died from the vaccine. If every one got the shot about 5 million will die from it. Far more then died from covid.
bowman81 · M
@Confined This is an absolute fabrication. Do you realize that there have been 84 million vaccinated in the USA alone and 5% of them would be 4.2 million people?

Use your head man, there were only a 3.1 million people who died of all causes in the USA in 2020. Where do you come up with such complete utter bullshit?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@bowman81 Don't try to use facts or logic with these people. They are incapable of understanding or independent thought.
Human1000 · 51-55, M
You, like most humans, have a poor notion of aggregate risk. There were a few cases out of hundreds of thousands. 560,000 dead Americans, though.
Human1000 · 51-55, M
@Vegasfor30 Ooh, a "tough guy." 😆
Vegasfor30 · 61-69, M
@Human1000
You’re damn right I’m a tough guy. I can sniff out stupidity miles away. Just keep following and before you know it you’ll be a communist
Human1000 · 51-55, M
@Vegasfor30 Tough guy afraid of needles...
Only ½ of 1% of people who caught polio became paralyzed, so I guess you won’t be taking that vaccine either.
It’s highly amusing watching the usual suspects talk down to those weary of a new vaccine..

Even more so when they claim 6 ppl out of a million is acceptable collateral damage..
but the 1% who die..over the 98% who recover just five.. there can be no collateral damage.. anti vaxxers are dumb yu’al. take your poison and shut up like a good little pleb.... just like us .. lolz 🍿😎
Magenta · F
Blood clots in the brain and one woman died, yet so many will willfully ignorantly make light of it or use anything they can grasp at to justify it. Wtf is up with that mentality.
MrAboo · 36-40, M
Not to mention a 3 month efficacy rate. Waste of time and money
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@msros It is true. I am not going to delve into conspiracy theories because people want to demonize China like a cartoon villain.
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@msros I just deal in facts not conspiracy and propaganda.

 
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