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AbbeyRhode · F
@jackjjackson And if it's true that they lack the counseling to know how to obtain them, there should be more counseling. With 20 veterans a day committing suicide, there should be a lot more counseling!
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TexChik · F
After the election Trump and the DOJ needs to bring the hammer down on sanctuary states. No fed money , declare martial law , move in troops , and arrest everyone involved in breaking federal immigration law . The law applies to everyone ... and it’s time the socialists figure that out .., in prison if necessary
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CopperCicada · M
It's pragmatism.
Like 7% of California's workforce is illegal labor. That's not going to change despite all the protestations. It's cheap labor for agriculture, construction, and domestic service.
Given their social class, whatever money they don't send back home gets spent on housing, food, consumer goods.
Either they get insurance or they walk through the ER as their primary. And then we eat all those costs.
The real outrage should be who the fuck is employing this 7% of the work force with illegal labor. And why nobody gives a shit.
Some states employ even more illegal labor. Nevada's workforce is about 10% illegal. Texas about the same as California.
Like 7% of California's workforce is illegal labor. That's not going to change despite all the protestations. It's cheap labor for agriculture, construction, and domestic service.
Given their social class, whatever money they don't send back home gets spent on housing, food, consumer goods.
Either they get insurance or they walk through the ER as their primary. And then we eat all those costs.
The real outrage should be who the fuck is employing this 7% of the work force with illegal labor. And why nobody gives a shit.
Some states employ even more illegal labor. Nevada's workforce is about 10% illegal. Texas about the same as California.
CopperCicada · M
@Northwest That's the deceptive part of the argument.
What I personally resent about the inability to talk about this issue and adequately address it with reasonable public policy is that it entrenches a cultural war that need not be here.
No joke, I literally hear people say the Mexicans are taking over when they see Spanish named streets like "Ponce de Leon". And I'm like WTF. The Spaniards were here in 1560 dude. And I have people in my own family that can't go to a Mexican or Italian restaurant because it's "foreign food". I'm like WTF. Olive Garden is edgy?
If we keep at this, the whole country is going to be one big ChikFilA and Walmart. And I'll be dead or ex-pat'd.
There's a flow chart:
Have an immigration problem > Can you fix it without pisses off your big corporate ag biz donors? > No > Chum the waters to make a faux cultural war to make it look like you care > Repeat until tacos are treason.
What I personally resent about the inability to talk about this issue and adequately address it with reasonable public policy is that it entrenches a cultural war that need not be here.
No joke, I literally hear people say the Mexicans are taking over when they see Spanish named streets like "Ponce de Leon". And I'm like WTF. The Spaniards were here in 1560 dude. And I have people in my own family that can't go to a Mexican or Italian restaurant because it's "foreign food". I'm like WTF. Olive Garden is edgy?
If we keep at this, the whole country is going to be one big ChikFilA and Walmart. And I'll be dead or ex-pat'd.
There's a flow chart:
Have an immigration problem > Can you fix it without pisses off your big corporate ag biz donors? > No > Chum the waters to make a faux cultural war to make it look like you care > Repeat until tacos are treason.
CopperCicada · M
@xixgun Well. Here's a strategic problem of national security.
Around 50% agricultural workers are undocumented illegal aliens. 1.8M or so. And in some states, 5, 7, 10% of the whole labor force is undocumented illegal aliens.
So we've got a problem. We've come to economically rely on a labor population that is employed and that works through the violation of a whole stack of labor, tax, and immigration laws. And we can't exactly get rid of them. And we did it to save on labor costs.
Now what?
Around 50% agricultural workers are undocumented illegal aliens. 1.8M or so. And in some states, 5, 7, 10% of the whole labor force is undocumented illegal aliens.
So we've got a problem. We've come to economically rely on a labor population that is employed and that works through the violation of a whole stack of labor, tax, and immigration laws. And we can't exactly get rid of them. And we did it to save on labor costs.
Now what?
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