@beckyromero A maxim is not a truism. It's merely someone's opinion, expressed succinctly.
Baldly generalising it as a fallacy is intellectually lazy. What turns an observation into a fallacy? A single contrary example? Does a Jeremy Corbyn or a Bernie Sanders disprove the general tendency for older people to adopt a more realistic, conservative approach to politics.
@bijouxbroussardThere is only one way to charitably describe this comment, and that is blind, brainwashed socialist stupidity. Clearly you are too far gone for re-education if you believe “Conservative Ideals” are about sexism and racism, but just for the record, Conservatism is a philosophy that respects tradition, individual freedom, individual opportunity, rule of law, property rights, minimal government interference in daily life. Or, as the Declaration of Independence puts it simply – the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Thus Conservative ideals seek to preserve a range of institutions such as religion, democratic government, an independent judiciary, with the aim of emphasizing social stability and continuity.
Racist? It was the Tories (Conservatives) that fought for and achieved the abolition of slavery in the 1700s. It was a Republican (Conservative )who achieved emancipation in the USA. And Australian conservatives abolished the “white Australia “ policy.
Sexist? Margaret Thatcher, Angela Merkel, Theresa May, Christine Lagarde
But why waste anymore time arguing with pea-brained socialists.
But why waste anymore time arguing with pea-brained socialists.
To launch into insults is typically racist right conservative, so that doesn't surprise me. Guess what ? Not all progressives are socialists, at least not where I live. So your ignorance and assumptions are tiresome.
And you obviously are confused about the difference between political ideology vs political party, because there is one. There are conservative Democrats and always have been. There are also liberal Democrats and moderate Democrats. There used to be liberal (progressive) Republicans, not so much anymore. "Southern strategy" post Civil Rights era started the shift that exists today, with most of the Dixiecrats shifting to the GOP and people of color leaving it in droves. The Democrats, who claimed to support "the common man" started including people of color in labor, education, and social programs, more progressive platforms. Republicans began to focus on business and the wealthy.
Conservative ideals are are about traditionalism. Racism is still a strong tradition in the U.S. The Republican Party started out as progressive not conservative---to shake up the status quo. Our abolitionists and our suffragettes were not conservatives---not about maintaining the status quo. So you can't give conservative that credit---the Southern Democrats "Dixiecrats" were social conservatives dedicated to preserving society as it existed pre-Reconstruction.
You don't know our history, clearly. Social conservatism has always stood for the traditional racism and sexism in the U.S. And social conservatives still support it and make excuses. And label anything else as "socialism". You can all go to blazes as far as I'm concerned.
These are the conservatives in the United States today, the far right:
I am a land owner, but I don't have much money, and I have to work hard (I'm a programmer and a technical writer). I used to be a conservative person, politically, thinking that free markets, and free enterprise, are the best way to go (it's what I learned at school and at home). I am no longer convinced about that. I now think that free markets contain self-destructing elements, some of which have been described by socialist theoreticians. Oh yes.
@pagandad You're dreaming, dude. When we did things the laissez faire way, shit was completely intolerable. Free markets are fantastic at lots of things, but they tend to only increase wealth and income inequality.
My own wealth is mostly in my little farm, and in precious metals. I only keep my working cash in the bank.
It did, moving to the right. For me it was realising than more often than not people get what they deserve, and blaming the system and injustice is just a comfoetable way to avoid being accountable for your deeds in life.
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Not particularly. I’ve always been pro choice across the board on social issues while wanting and expecting restraint, efficiency, and responsibility on fiscal issues.
Absolutely, when I was in high school and college I was a socialist. When I grew up and started to work to support myself, I realized that what I work for should be mine to the greatest extent possible and the government bureauracy is a laughable collection of inept clowns. I am now a very woke Libertarian.
yeah I once considered myself a liberal. That was till it completely became a circus filled by crazy people. Kinda made me want to get as far away as I could and soon realised a lot of views on the right, are my own views.. I think getting older made me be much more open minded to gaining a new perspective and like I said getting as far away as I could from the circus
Yes. My political perspective has completely reversed, after I woke up and realized that the news media is nothing but a manipulative propaganda machine, and I had been trusting their lies.
I’ve become a lot more anti-conservative because of the number of conservatives I’ve encountered who are full-on racists or at the least, apologists for racism. I used to be believe that they were just more “traditionalist” than the rest. But in the U.S. racism is a bigger part of our traditions than people would like to acknowledge. Some people of color, especially those who are very religious, identify as conservative because they would like to ignore that reality, but I’m not sure how they can.
