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@Samson I am a Christian myself, and sadly I have to say that is true.
4meAndyou · F
Part of the reason our country is so special, and part of the reason people love the principle on which it was founded was precisely BECAUSE other countries persecuted people with whose religion they did not agree. The Pilgrims came here to escape persecution and to obtain freedom to believe in the exact way that they wished.
Unfortunately, they turned around and persecuted and banished preachers within their governmental jurisdiction who did not agree with their views.
I guess you could say that it is a universal human failing to believe VERY strongly in certain things (like religion) and to either try to convert all those within earshot or to hate anyone who doesn't agree wholeheartedly with whatever you happen to believe.
Most religions believe that they MUST convert others, in order to save their souls from damnation, and that by saving souls they, themselves, will receive an extra helping of blessings.
So, even though the proselytizers can be super annoying, at least here they are free to practice their religion as they wish (with the exception of violating our laws).
Unfortunately, they turned around and persecuted and banished preachers within their governmental jurisdiction who did not agree with their views.
I guess you could say that it is a universal human failing to believe VERY strongly in certain things (like religion) and to either try to convert all those within earshot or to hate anyone who doesn't agree wholeheartedly with whatever you happen to believe.
Most religions believe that they MUST convert others, in order to save their souls from damnation, and that by saving souls they, themselves, will receive an extra helping of blessings.
So, even though the proselytizers can be super annoying, at least here they are free to practice their religion as they wish (with the exception of violating our laws).
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TeirdalinFirefall · 31-35, M
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@TeirdalinFirefall Exactly, if religion is banned completely then that would be going against the Constitution.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
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@hippyjoe1955 Exactly.
FreestyleArt · 36-40, M
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@FreestyleArt Amen...
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Fernie · F
@BiasForAction illusions
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@Fernie Most definitely.
ImRileyTheDog · 22-25, F
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msros · F
I think Sharia law would be the best thing.
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msros · F
And I am jealous of you people, lol.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Because monotheist religions which happen to be the major ones each run under the doctrine that their God is the right one. When you view your deity as an actual being with feelings, it becomes more complicated and tribal.
SpaceJesus · 41-45
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@SpaceJesus No or else I wouldn't have asked this question.
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ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
You might as well ask why freedom speech
CopperCicada · M
Because we're assholes.
We take our first amendment freedom of speech to mean the right to say anything we want anywhere we want-- with no consequences. And we take the free assembly clause as the right to force religion on anyone we want in any context.
All because of freedom. Or some idea of it.
Used to be we actually understood 1A to apply to restrictions enacted by Congress or bodies empowered by Congress. And not be assholes.
We take our first amendment freedom of speech to mean the right to say anything we want anywhere we want-- with no consequences. And we take the free assembly clause as the right to force religion on anyone we want in any context.
All because of freedom. Or some idea of it.
Used to be we actually understood 1A to apply to restrictions enacted by Congress or bodies empowered by Congress. And not be assholes.
CopperCicada · M
@GunSmoke9 When and where I came up, almost everyone was part of a faith community. But nobody got in anyone's face about it. A lot of people from Euro-trash immigrant families, like mine. You could get a good guess sometimes from surnames. Or from religious hardware. Cross-- not a Catholic of any kind. Crucifix-- Catholic, maybe the rite is ambiguous. Kippah-- that's obvious. Or you could tell from what holidays and rituals people did. Or when they did them. Oh, you're doing Christmas later, must be Orthodox. Ashes-- Catholic. And so on. But nobody got in anyone's face. Nobody sent up flares. Nobody fought with anyone, tried to get into religious arguments, tried to convert random people or people in their closest circle.
Now I'm in a different time and place, and it's bizarre to me. People flat out asking me my religion. Asking if I'm saved. I'm not talking friends. I'm talking coworkers, students, customers. People making public comments and commentaries about my faith. I'm not talking about in a church or temple. I'm talking about at work, school. Getting approached, while minding my own business, sitting in a cafe. Getting approached in the Books A Million religion section. My house pamphleted. Getting my car pamphleted if a park near a church. Having a pastor of a church I went to showing up at my house. Missionaries showing up at my house until I drive them off.
Sure. That's all protected speech. And sure that's their expression of their faith. But that's also being an asshole.
Now I'm in a different time and place, and it's bizarre to me. People flat out asking me my religion. Asking if I'm saved. I'm not talking friends. I'm talking coworkers, students, customers. People making public comments and commentaries about my faith. I'm not talking about in a church or temple. I'm talking about at work, school. Getting approached, while minding my own business, sitting in a cafe. Getting approached in the Books A Million religion section. My house pamphleted. Getting my car pamphleted if a park near a church. Having a pastor of a church I went to showing up at my house. Missionaries showing up at my house until I drive them off.
Sure. That's all protected speech. And sure that's their expression of their faith. But that's also being an asshole.
CopperCicada · M
@GunSmoke9 No. The 1A doesn't protect one from assholes.
Manners is what protects one from assholes, but for some reason we've decided "freedom of speech" means one can drop all manners and say and do whatever one wishes.
I've never argued for 1A restrictions. I've argued for manners and basic decency.
Manners is what protects one from assholes, but for some reason we've decided "freedom of speech" means one can drop all manners and say and do whatever one wishes.
I've never argued for 1A restrictions. I've argued for manners and basic decency.
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YoungPoet345 · 26-30, F
Freedom of speech, otherwise known as the right to be an asshole.
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@plungesponge Yeah, apparently 😂. @YoungPoet345
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MrAboo · 36-40, M
Ppl are assholes like that