So now Trump is going to declare a national emergency for his wall. Petty much?

@Pherick At the same time, it can't be border focused. The facts are that the largest increase of illegal immigrants are coming from Asia, and they are coming through customs and overstaying visas. And a large number of people from Latin America are coming through means other than crossing the border. A bill has to include those aspects.

Now you're talking about a very different problem.

And then there's the problem of illegal labor.

These start getting into the doings of federal agencies and a matter of enforcement.

@CopperCicada Agreed on everything. Thats why this wall thing pisses me off. trump won't look at the whole situation and try and put forth real useful fixes. Nope. just moronically chant "Build a wall" over and over.

@Pherick I don't think it's just Trump and his base. It's an issue that's hard for people to offset political liabilities.

Conservatives have held this up as a campaign issue as a "southern border issue" for too long. And they've held it up as one that was cheap and easy. It's hard to walk that back to a border economic/education/tech stimulus package focused on border security. It's also harder to walk this back into a lot of work in federal agencies which will require staffing and yes, bigger government. And nobody in a red agricultural state wants to touch penalizing those who employ illegal labor.

And liberals have mucked in identity politics for too long. Their mere participation will be seen as being traitorous. They know that border and immigration security is necessary. But it's suicidal to sign off on it-- in the absence of a larger package. And on principles they have good reasons to support things like DACA-- and it's suicidal for conservatives to sign off on anything that includes that-- in the absence of a broader package.

Now we're doing this at a time when any compromise is potentially suicidal and a sign of weakness. I mean, Trump did move in the right direction throwing in DACA extensions. And look what it got him from his base.

There's also a component of the House blocking Trump symbolically. Which needed to happen, and Trump should see that and be able to move beyond that. Trump baited Pelosi and she didn't cave. Boom.

I think the wise leader in this position realizes this has to be zero sum. Nobody will win politically from this in the short term. Get it done, let it sink in, memories and perceptions shift and spin. And then people can make it anything they like two years from now.

@QuixoticSoul It's often said that people cannot be as stupid as they look. Of course there is an exception to every rule. Let me present our friend from down under ;

@LegendofPeza Lmao what happens in those selfie threads stays in those selfie threads, low blow 😂

Btw I think he thinks I'm you unless there is another pez running around here.

@QuixoticSoul Paranoia might as well be this clown's middle name.

And those people stupid enough to post their mugs on an anonymous website shouldn't be surprised when others decide to have a bit of fun with it.

It's all in the game old boy. 😉

@katielass nope
Just power

@TexChik And why are they willing to do anything for power? Because they desperately want a one world government, thinking they will be one of the elites, and strip Americans of their constitutional rights.

@katielass yep

@OggggO They'll still vote against him, if they even bother to hear the case. Not like they need him for anything now that they're on the bench, and they're still judges who respect the law.

I’m pretty sure the President and his advisors know that. There will be a ton of moving parts until a deal is done with enough pain and gain for everyone. @QuixoticSoul

@jackjjackson Or nothing is going to get done, and Trump will get to say that at least he didn't give up 🤷‍♂️

Which I think is the real priority for him at the moment.

@katielass The US doesn't compromise with hostage takers

@TheCensoredBrot No? odumbo did. But Trump is just going to go around this one and she can dig her way out of losing the house in 2 short years.

@katielass Who's Odumbo?

@marriedplus3 most of that happened at legal border crossings; not where his wall would be

@marriedplus3 Wow. 5 billion for a tiny wall. You're getting ripped off. Might want to check where that money is really going (if it ever gets approved, that is)

All I would like to see. Is border patrol have complete control over how to use the money if it’s barrier or technology or both whatever just let border patrol decide. Because they have to do the job everyday. I believe border patrol over anyone in Washington @OggggO

@PinkPowerRanger They won't get paid though if the gutless and failing Baby-trump hires them.

@Allelse apparently it wasn't enough to get his wall 😒