Viper · M
Based on reports there was no plan, he just one day demanded it and caught the pentagon off guard. But I have to disagree with it for three reasons,
1) Generally speaking I say let the pentagon handle these things and they seemed to dislike the move (possible for reason #2 and #3)
2) This potentially really hurts the Kurds who have been very helpful to the US, and it's basically an appeasement to Russia and Turkey (I don't like appeasement especially to countries I don't trust).
3) Trump said we defeated ISIS in Syria which EVERYONE is nicely saying BS too. They're clearly still there and fighting according to everyone else.
In theory it could save a lot of money, in reality those that money is probably still gonna be spent. But it is nice to get our soldiers out of harms way and in theory spend less money.
1) Generally speaking I say let the pentagon handle these things and they seemed to dislike the move (possible for reason #2 and #3)
2) This potentially really hurts the Kurds who have been very helpful to the US, and it's basically an appeasement to Russia and Turkey (I don't like appeasement especially to countries I don't trust).
3) Trump said we defeated ISIS in Syria which EVERYONE is nicely saying BS too. They're clearly still there and fighting according to everyone else.
In theory it could save a lot of money, in reality those that money is probably still gonna be spent. But it is nice to get our soldiers out of harms way and in theory spend less money.
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Ryanoliver2011 · 31-35, M
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@Ryanoliver2011 >_>
Rex Tillerson worked as secretary of state as he is also the president of the Exxon Yemen Inc.
People wonder how the rich are ruling this nation with companies...
Rex Tillerson worked as secretary of state as he is also the president of the Exxon Yemen Inc.
People wonder how the rich are ruling this nation with companies...
Ryanoliver2011 · 31-35, M
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TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
@Ryanoliver2011 but if not then the dollar value will be cut in half
DallasCowboysFan · 61-69, M
@TheRascallyOneThe people returning are military. They will still have a job.
DallasCowboysFan · 61-69, M
@TheRascallyOne When the soldiers return they will spend money in the local area. Visit a military community when soldiers are deployed and see if the local merchants are not happy to see them return.
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Zoeoz · 31-35, F
@SW-User I meant "planned" in the sense that it hasn't happened yet.
bookerdana · M
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Ryanoliver2011 · 31-35, M
I’m honestly not sure how I feel about it. On the one hand that is like us offering an olive branch to Russia which is good because a war with Russia could quickly turn nuclear and nobody wants that but on the other hand we may be the only thing keeping ISIS from getting a stronghold there (is need to look into that to confirm that theory)
Coppercoil · M
haha I want to take them out of just about everywhere.. there was once a saying, the sun never set on the British Empire cause their military was everywhere on the globe or like the Romans before them all over Europe and the Mediterranean. it's unsustainable.. we're spread too thin. we don't need to be everywhere.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Coppercoil The version of that I heard was "The Sun will never set on the British Empire, because God doesnt trust the pommies in the dark". But your point is well made. The thing that has changed is that distances have shrunk as travel and communications have expanded. Global reach is now possible.
Coppercoil · M
@whowasthatmaskedman yes I agree it's not an exact match.. technology introduces new variables to a very complex equation.
and I like your version of the saying better.
and I like your version of the saying better.
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Ryanoliver2011 · 31-35, M
@Overwatch6 yea lol his biggest flaw is his massive ego. One can’t help but wonder if his massive ego is covering up something... small hands maybe 🤔 😂😂😂
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@hunkalove Great idea... Apart from the arms sales of course... and the oil. Dont forget the oil.
DallasCowboysFan · 61-69, M
Yep. The reason the whole Syria thing started anyhow is over a pipeline for natural gas for the EU.
And then it evolved into a civil war. Maybe the world would not hate us so much if we did not create so much chaos. At least Trump is doing the right thing by withdrawing us from Syria and hopefully Afghanistan as well.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/world-war-iii-a-pipeline/
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/press/syria-pipeline-how-the-press-will-not-tell-the-truth-about-syria/
And then it evolved into a civil war. Maybe the world would not hate us so much if we did not create so much chaos. At least Trump is doing the right thing by withdrawing us from Syria and hopefully Afghanistan as well.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/world-war-iii-a-pipeline/
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/press/syria-pipeline-how-the-press-will-not-tell-the-truth-about-syria/
Spoiledbrat · F
That was has been planned since Obama was in office. And Bush sent us over there. @DallasCowboysFan
DallasCowboysFan · 61-69, M
@Spoiledbrat Yeah, Hillary and Obama set the Middle East on fire.
Spoiledbrat · F
Well bush sent them over there in the first place. That was my point. @DallasCowboysFan
Viper · M
Considering it sounds like most of Trump's advisors and the Pentagon were against it and that America is breaking promises that Trump's own administration made, and that we gave our allies no heads up, putting them in a horrible position after they helped us so much...
It seems rather stupid to do it all of sudden... at minimum give our allies a geads up, especially after your own administration promised them that we would be there as long as Iran is... which makes America look like liers and untrust worthy. Then again, I guess that's a direct reflection of the person in the white house... as he has turn his back on some in a heartbeat, and promised one thing and did another.
It seems rather stupid to do it all of sudden... at minimum give our allies a geads up, especially after your own administration promised them that we would be there as long as Iran is... which makes America look like liers and untrust worthy. Then again, I guess that's a direct reflection of the person in the white house... as he has turn his back on some in a heartbeat, and promised one thing and did another.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Viper That's the basis for his (and his band of followers') understanding of leadership:
1. To win, everyone else must lose.
2. Compassion = weakness.
3. Think of self first, last, and always.
Of course that's not real leadership nor sustainable. But, it is the creed of those who are gutless and failing live by.
1. To win, everyone else must lose.
2. Compassion = weakness.
3. Think of self first, last, and always.
Of course that's not real leadership nor sustainable. But, it is the creed of those who are gutless and failing live by.
Viper · M
@MarkPaul It was reported that Trump did this based off a phone call random promise with the leader of Turkey (who want to wipe out our allies there).
I can't help but wonder if this has anything to do with the writer that got killed in Turkey... the President has been trying to help out the Saudis with PR, and Turkey was making the most noise... Is this a favor to shut Turkey up? Why else go against all your advisors?
I can't help but wonder if this has anything to do with the writer that got killed in Turkey... the President has been trying to help out the Saudis with PR, and Turkey was making the most noise... Is this a favor to shut Turkey up? Why else go against all your advisors?
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Viper Well...
1. He knows more than the advisors, so following them defeats his lines of reasoning. He literally has to do the opposite of what they tell him.
2. While he likes to demean Obama, he seems obsessed with him, and Obama did pull out troops of Iraq too hastily. So, it's a copycat move.
3. No matter what, he needs to be front and center in the news. And, what could get him more front and center then doing something that makes little sense in a way that has no logic attached to it?
Basically, he's a gutless and failing big baby who is literally an enemy to the people.
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1. He knows more than the advisors, so following them defeats his lines of reasoning. He literally has to do the opposite of what they tell him.
2. While he likes to demean Obama, he seems obsessed with him, and Obama did pull out troops of Iraq too hastily. So, it's a copycat move.
3. No matter what, he needs to be front and center in the news. And, what could get him more front and center then doing something that makes little sense in a way that has no logic attached to it?
Basically, he's a gutless and failing big baby who is literally an enemy to the people.
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FreestyleArt · 36-40, M
haven't know why yet.....and not planning too maybe next week or so. not that much important to check out for now.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
- A guy has consensual sex with a woman he's not married to.
- He never should have done it... but he did.
- The woman has a baby.
- The guy disappears because he never should have had sex with the woman in the first place.
- The guy claims, "it's not my responsibility. There's no good that can come from me being involved."
- Should the guy withdraw or now see this "thing" through because he was involved... even though he never should have been?
- He never should have done it... but he did.
- The woman has a baby.
- The guy disappears because he never should have had sex with the woman in the first place.
- The guy claims, "it's not my responsibility. There's no good that can come from me being involved."
- Should the guy withdraw or now see this "thing" through because he was involved... even though he never should have been?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@MarkPaul The answer should always be. "Whats best for the baby"
Spoiledbrat · F
I think that’s been planned since Obama was in office.
Zoeoz · 31-35, F
@Spoiledbrat I mean, sure, eventually. I don't think anyone expected to keep troops in Syria forever. But there is a question of timing here
Cierzo · M
I agree with any country withdrawing their troops deployed anywhere abroad.
Dateless · 31-35, M
He didn’t withdrawal.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Yes
TheProphet · M
Yes.
bijouxbroussard · F
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msros · F
That whole Iraq invasion was a big goof-up. A heavy price to pay for taking out Saddam.
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MethDozer · M
100% we should have never gone there. We have no reason to be there. No good comes from us being there. It's their problem, not ours.
We should drop Israel and the rest of them too.
We should drop Israel and the rest of them too.