Will America ever get over slavery?

@katielass idiocy.

@katielass And they are making a good buck rabble-rousing.

@sunsporter1649 Yes, the only people who accumulate money for not providing a product or service

@SW-User I agree and haven't forgotten that...but from the 'great debate' over it I think the majority has.

@indyjoe Yeah but there will always be race baiters starting trouble and the media keeps giving these nuts coverage is the problem today.

@SW-User Exactly...very wise notation. We must also not forget or ignore these facts either...It wasn't only African Americans who her slaves. There was also the Chinese (they built most of our railroads), the whites you mentioned (became slaves to people in exchange for their passage to the new world), and then native Americans (who still live on reservations for the most part in virtual poverty)...yet nothing is hardly ever said about them. That's why I say we need to move past it. Until we do that we will never move forward.

@Heartlander Well the trick there is facing the misery of today.

Listening to some people there's absolutely no racism, sexism, bigotry against anyone, no problems with sexual violence, no problems with child molestation, no sexual trafficking, no poverty, no problems with jobs, no problems with religious tolerance...

Mention a social ill and it's all fake news, all a fabrication.

@BayouBoudin
And there you have the answer to your OP.

It matters (even to white people like myself) as long as there are people telling others that part of their family narrative or nation's narrative has no importance and to STFU about it.

I'm white AF and even I know from my own Euro-trash immigrant history that the first step to normalizing what happened to people is to fuck with their stories.

@CopperCicada Not STFU about it. Stop using it as a crutch. It is the original sin of this country. So long as it is brought out whenever politically expedient, we can't move forward. You can acknowledge the past without using it to prevent a united future.

@BayouBoudin I don't consume media so I don't know who is using it as a crutch. In my world it's something that never comes up.

That said, the people I see causing the most division are those litmus testing everyone. Had a prick here tell me neither legal nor illegal immigrants were "real" Americans. Can't count the number of times I've seen people politically or religiously litmus tested.

@katielass They also ignore that not all states were slave states. Only a small minority of individuals owned slaves. Slaves were not kidnapped from Africa, but sold by Africans to Europeans for sale in the Americas.

@katielass because leftists socialists love to blame America for everything.

@SW-User Indeed, that was sort of my point. No profit in bashing the UK, they're sufficiently globalist in mindset.

@BayouBoudin Yes, and the only ancestors of mine who were here then certainly didn't own slaves, they were busy being thrown off their land, and no, I'm not complaining. You can't get ahead if you're always looking back. I think perhaps the thing that's second only to having had slaves is keeping people enslaved with mind tricks, i.e. constantly telling them how bad they have it.

@SW-User

But they are still suffering the consequences of slavery. You'd be a fool to think otherwise. It wasn't so very long ago that it was still illegal for a black person to marry a white person. It wasn't so long ago that black people were by law given different rights than white people.
Just because black people living today weren't enslaved doesn't mean they aren't still suffering as a result

@Pikachu What consequences are they suffering due to slavery? Anti-miscegenation laws are Jim Crow laws. Not slavery. Again, rights were given to Blacks that made them less than that of whites. However that was pushed under Jim Crow. Black people today suffer from a few different things. The legacy of Jim Crow. The unfair Treatment by the US Federal Government. Adopting dependency on the state, High crime rates, Dindu behavior.

@MistyCee Nobody ever said it should be forgotten and ignored...it was a big part of our history and that's where it belongs...in history. Slavery happened all over the known world (and still does in some places) but it seems to be only here in the U.S. that it's still a big issue when it doesn't even exist anymore.

@indyjoe I think we are getting past a lot of the major effects, but its been a really slow process, and it really hasn't been that long when you think about it on a broader scale.

Think about Jim Crow laws, segregation, the migration of black populations out of the rural South and into Northern cities, urban flight, busing, and the economic impact of the end of slavery and the civil war itself on the South. None of this stuff is really directly about slavery, but it's all about how the descendants of slaves are integrated into, and how they're shaping the country.

"White guilt," "white rage" and reactions to those things are part of the process, too.

I'm not sure of a really good historical analogy off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are plenty of mass upheavals in history that had lasting impacts much longer. Maybe the British occupation of Ireland, or the Anglo Saxon conquest, the exiles of Jews, the crusades, etc.

I guess my point is, we're still a very young country, and it really hasn't been that long since Blacks could practically even vote in much of the South.

@SW-User The Normans invaded England and subjugated the Anglo-Saxons. The Anglo Saxons invaded and subjugated the Celts. The Vikings invaded and subjugated all. Now they are English. History is remembered, however they don't look for people with surnames of Scandinavian origin and blame them for all their failures.

@BayouBoudin So because some black people blame white people for slavery that Americans should get over slavery? If you're so offended by that, then that's your problem to fix.

@Nobody28 Why? You had nothing to do with it.

@BayouBoudin I know but there is alot of tension between whites and blacks beacause of it there was rape and slavery I just wish it never happened and I could go back in time and change history like it Never happened

@Nobody28 That's not going to happen.