itsok · 31-35, F
I don’t have an absolute answer. No, if by cause you mean an action was taken to create suffering (or more suffering) that wasn’t tainted by previous suffering or circumstances. Yes, if you mean the suffering comes from the person themself.
I do think a lot of suffering is from personality and learned behavior. I’m not dismissing pain from outside sources, just saying two people can go through the exact same thing, with one suffering and the other not.
While I think most cases could be argued that a person does have control over actions they could take to lesson some suffering, I don’t think that completely rids the suffering, and a lot of people will never have access to finding that help, even if they tried. I don’t think that faults lies with them.
(I did a lot of ACT therapy)
I do think a lot of suffering is from personality and learned behavior. I’m not dismissing pain from outside sources, just saying two people can go through the exact same thing, with one suffering and the other not.
While I think most cases could be argued that a person does have control over actions they could take to lesson some suffering, I don’t think that completely rids the suffering, and a lot of people will never have access to finding that help, even if they tried. I don’t think that faults lies with them.
(I did a lot of ACT therapy)
Achelois · F
@awildsheepschase
We can have people make us suffer if we allow it.
Some suffer and project that pain onto others, while others won’t have boundaries and allow pain to happen, both need to heal.
That can change everything 🥰
We can have people make us suffer if we allow it.
Some suffer and project that pain onto others, while others won’t have boundaries and allow pain to happen, both need to heal.
That can change everything 🥰
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
On an individual level, probably not.
On a societal level, yes. 🤷♂
On a societal level, yes. 🤷♂
Some things aren’t like gravity or the law of thermo-dynamics; they don’t have to happen. They happen only if people are stupid enough to allow them to happen. Here, on this island, we haven’t allowed them to happen, so the “cosmic joke” hasn’t been played on us. We’ve had good sanitation for the best part of the century-and still we’re not overcrowded, we’re not miserable, we’re not under dictatorship.
And the reason is simple: “We chose to behave in a sensible and realistic way.”
Me as I think I am and me as I am in fact – sorrow, in other words, and the ending of sorrow. One third, more or less, of all the sorrow of that person I think I am must endure is unavoidable. It is the sorrow inherent in the human condition, the price we must pay for being sentient and self-conscious organisms, aspirants of liberation, but subjects of the laws of nature and under orders to keep on marching, through irreversible time, through world wholly indifferent to our well-being, towards decrepitude and certainty of death. The remaining two thirds of all sorrow is home-made, and so far as the universe is concerned, unnecessary.
- Aldous Huxley, Island
And the reason is simple: “We chose to behave in a sensible and realistic way.”
Me as I think I am and me as I am in fact – sorrow, in other words, and the ending of sorrow. One third, more or less, of all the sorrow of that person I think I am must endure is unavoidable. It is the sorrow inherent in the human condition, the price we must pay for being sentient and self-conscious organisms, aspirants of liberation, but subjects of the laws of nature and under orders to keep on marching, through irreversible time, through world wholly indifferent to our well-being, towards decrepitude and certainty of death. The remaining two thirds of all sorrow is home-made, and so far as the universe is concerned, unnecessary.
- Aldous Huxley, Island
Gingerbreadspice · F
I think there are those that don’t help themselves so they cause their own continued suffering.
JustYourImagination · 56-60, F
People may not cause the original trauma that begins their suffering, but how long a person suffers from that trauma is within the control of each person.
faery · 31-35, F
Yep!
nazgul · 26-30, F
Most? No. Suffering is inherent to living, and can be reduced through your approach and response to the thing causing the suffering. But most suffering is a matter of circumstance.
Always
Lilymoon · F
Probably
Bleed · 41-45, F
No some people get hit by so much bad luck. Just like for every person that works hard and it pays off there’s another one that had everything handed to them.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
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@Elessar Can I combine all of the 31–35 years old who think it is somewhere else? Two are almost no. For you, it's the politics
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@awildsheepschase There's a chain of things that happen in each person's life that begins in childhood where we don't get to choose. "Think positively" is just BS people who naturally think that way say because they believe it's like a switch you can turn on and off. The cruel fact is that certain percentage of people is simply doomed. Some will go through their life with unstable emotions and some will die of suicide or an overdose because they are programmed that way through genetics and life experiences that already root in their childhood. There is no cure for all formula that would miraculously turn any person's life around and make them happy unicorns farting rainbow and glitter.
PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
I would say no far more than yes
bijouxbroussard · F
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
I believe they do
hunkalove · 70-79, M
All of the time.
HorrorandMusic · 26-30, FNew
Most of the time, probably. I know I could've saved a lot of my suffering if I wasn't a coward.
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
Give them a large sum of money and I bet most of them turn their lives around for the better.
YoMomma ·
Not always but sometimes
BrandNewMan · M
smiler2012 · 61-69
[@sw question] 🤔yes sadly they do through no fault of there own or a misguided action
JonLosAngeles66 · M
They allow it to happen
ShepherdBard · 31-35, M
Tumbleweed · F
Yes
ABCDEF7 · M
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