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Most every claim the left has against Trump is a lie at this point.
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@ElwoodBlues No, but he'll still go on claiming it's true.
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@SomeMichGuy why? Afraid of the truth? Or does facts make you nauseous?
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ElwoodBlues · M
@houseonfire says
Trump brought SIXTY ONE court cases at different levels in different states with different teams of lawyers, and NONE of them found any evidence of significant election fraud. NONE of them.
Trump also asked his attorney general (and one of his staunchest allies), William Barr, to have the 112,000 member Dept of Justice look into election fraud. I don't know how many members were assigned to look for fraud, but with 112,000 members they have plenty of resources. Barr told the AP that U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”
But wait! There's more!!
In the days after his 2020 loss, Trump's campaign commissioned two different independent firms to look into 2020 election fraud: Simpatico Software, headed by Ken Block, and Berkeley Research Group. Neither found any significant fraud.
In the months after Biden took power, the republican states of Arizona and Georgia carried out very careful hand recounts and examinations of voter rolls, including the notorious Arizona "Cyber Ninja" hand count. Both found no significant fraud and no signs of funny business.
Ariz. hand count https://azsos.gov/election/2020-general-election-hand-count-results
Georgia signature audit https://www.ajc.com/politics/no-fraud-georgia-audit-confirms-authenticity-of-absentee-ballots/QF2PTOGHLNDLNDJEWBU56WEQHM/
Georgia Independent machine audit https://www.wrcbtv.com/story/42925055/no-sign-of-foul-play-found-in-audit-of-georgias-voting-machines
Mich: https://www.michigan.gov/som/0,4669,7-192-47796-553386--,00.html
Georgia: https://www.ajc.com/politics/no-fraud-georgia-audit-confirms-authenticity-of-absentee-ballots/QF2PTOGHLNDLNDJEWBU56WEQHM/
Arizona https://apnews.com/article/technology-biden-cabinet-arizona-phoenix-elections-b59f85b6e917e91a40dc8e99bcab480a
Penn https://www.inquirer.com/news/pennsylvania/spl/pa-election-results-risk-limiting-audit-results-limitations-20210310.html
But wait! There's more!!
Additional "rigged election" claims have evaporated under scrutiny.
(1) Mike Lindell? Lost to his own "prove me wrong" thing.
(2) Mark Meadows? Recanted under oath.
(3) Sydney "Kracken" Powell? Recanted under oath.
(4) Kenneth Chesebro? Recanted under oath.
(5) Rudy Giuliani? Convicted of defamation.
(6) Vote counting machines? They match hand counts.
(7) 2000 Mules? Source "True the Vote" refuses to back up any of their claims in court, despite subpoenas.
(8) Fox News paid out $787,500,000 because they couldn't support their claims of election fraud. $787,500,000 - that ain't pocket change. A business doesn't pay out $787,500,000 for defamation without first spending millions to see if there might be a shred of support for what its people said; to find some excuse for why it's not defamation.
Source info for all points available upon request.
So there you have it, .. There's no rational reason to believe Trump's lies about a "rigged" or "stolen" election. Evidence for it doesn't exist. Now I know all these investigations won't change the minds of cult members, but an immunity to evidence is one of the ways you know you're in a CULT!!!
Both are possible no? They have proof that they had mail in ballots from dead people!
Trump brought SIXTY ONE court cases at different levels in different states with different teams of lawyers, and NONE of them found any evidence of significant election fraud. NONE of them.
Trump also asked his attorney general (and one of his staunchest allies), William Barr, to have the 112,000 member Dept of Justice look into election fraud. I don't know how many members were assigned to look for fraud, but with 112,000 members they have plenty of resources. Barr told the AP that U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”
But wait! There's more!!
In the days after his 2020 loss, Trump's campaign commissioned two different independent firms to look into 2020 election fraud: Simpatico Software, headed by Ken Block, and Berkeley Research Group. Neither found any significant fraud.
In the months after Biden took power, the republican states of Arizona and Georgia carried out very careful hand recounts and examinations of voter rolls, including the notorious Arizona "Cyber Ninja" hand count. Both found no significant fraud and no signs of funny business.
Ariz. hand count https://azsos.gov/election/2020-general-election-hand-count-results
Georgia signature audit https://www.ajc.com/politics/no-fraud-georgia-audit-confirms-authenticity-of-absentee-ballots/QF2PTOGHLNDLNDJEWBU56WEQHM/
Georgia Independent machine audit https://www.wrcbtv.com/story/42925055/no-sign-of-foul-play-found-in-audit-of-georgias-voting-machines
Mich: https://www.michigan.gov/som/0,4669,7-192-47796-553386--,00.html
Georgia: https://www.ajc.com/politics/no-fraud-georgia-audit-confirms-authenticity-of-absentee-ballots/QF2PTOGHLNDLNDJEWBU56WEQHM/
Arizona https://apnews.com/article/technology-biden-cabinet-arizona-phoenix-elections-b59f85b6e917e91a40dc8e99bcab480a
Penn https://www.inquirer.com/news/pennsylvania/spl/pa-election-results-risk-limiting-audit-results-limitations-20210310.html
But wait! There's more!!
Additional "rigged election" claims have evaporated under scrutiny.
(1) Mike Lindell? Lost to his own "prove me wrong" thing.
(2) Mark Meadows? Recanted under oath.
(3) Sydney "Kracken" Powell? Recanted under oath.
(4) Kenneth Chesebro? Recanted under oath.
(5) Rudy Giuliani? Convicted of defamation.
(6) Vote counting machines? They match hand counts.
(7) 2000 Mules? Source "True the Vote" refuses to back up any of their claims in court, despite subpoenas.
(8) Fox News paid out $787,500,000 because they couldn't support their claims of election fraud. $787,500,000 - that ain't pocket change. A business doesn't pay out $787,500,000 for defamation without first spending millions to see if there might be a shred of support for what its people said; to find some excuse for why it's not defamation.
Source info for all points available upon request.
So there you have it, .. There's no rational reason to believe Trump's lies about a "rigged" or "stolen" election. Evidence for it doesn't exist. Now I know all these investigations won't change the minds of cult members, but an immunity to evidence is one of the ways you know you're in a CULT!!!
houseonfire · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues If Kamala wins your going to be in a third world county and have no money and no food to buy. You my friend drank the cool aid long ag0.
ElwoodBlues · M
@houseonfire You can't present a SHRED of evidence regarding "rigged elections," can you?
over 5,000,000 (FIVE MILLION) more people employed now than during the peak under Trump.
If Kamala wins your going to be in a third world county
Sorry, Chicken Little, we heard that same "sky is falling" bvllcrap regarding Biden. And what have we got?? Inflation tamed and over 5,000,000 (FIVE MILLION) more people employed now than during the peak under Trump.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@houseonfire are you one of the dead mail voters?
houseonfire · 56-60, M
I am sure he may lie at least once. He may make a mistake and say he is debating a worthy opponent. No reason to lie let's see. Venezuela gang takes over apartment complex in Aroura CO., Check. Food, gas, rent; housing out of control, check. Hamas protestors take over colleges, and the women is married to a Jew and she promotes antisemitism, check. She was never the Border Czar, check. She loves everybody and visit Pennay Spices who on their web sight tell people to go away because they hate republicans, check. This women knows how to unite people, check. Oh and they caught illegals voting in Arizona, check. I hope that liar Trump can control himself.
ElwoodBlues · M
@houseonfire Dude, you are so far behind the times!!
Sure, Covid deflation lead to post-Covid inflation worldwide. And now that's gone. See??
AND. There are more than 5,000,000 (FIVE MILLION) more people employed now than during the peak under Trump. Just read the graph.
Sure, Covid deflation lead to post-Covid inflation worldwide. And now that's gone. See??
AND. There are more than 5,000,000 (FIVE MILLION) more people employed now than during the peak under Trump. Just read the graph.
houseonfire · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues LOL
SomeMichGuy · M
Corporalcolleague · 61-69, M
the part that I find truly disturbing is that the MAGA faithful don't care how much he lies....that's someone we want as the President of the United States? Hyperbole, sure...distortion of the facts to support your position...meh.....but straight up lying?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Corporalcolleague The Cult sees his lying as a feature, not a bug. The more he lies, the more they love him for it, especially if the lie attacks a specific person or liberals.
Corporalcolleague · 61-69, M
@windinhishair sad but true....he, and his disciples say the word "liberal" with such venom, not as a different political philosophy, and has depicted all non-MAGA Americans as the enemy... literally the enemy in which violence, prosecution, and incarceration are the only ways to deal.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
The big question is if he will show up coherent and able to stand without heavily leaning on the podium as he tells one lie after another. In a period of 1.5 hours he will...
1. Mention the assassination attempt he said he would never talk about again at least 1 time.
2. He will tell 77 lies and 23 half-truths.
3. He will personally insult Kamala Harris at least 3 times.
4. He will mention Joe Biden 7 - 10 times.
5. He will mispronounce words, slur his words, and sweat.
6. He will complain about how unfair he has been treated 5 times.
7. He will talk about "crowd size" at least 1 time.
8. He will praise himself 11 times for any number of reasons.
9. No matter what happens, what is said, how anyone behaves, he will claim he won.
1. Mention the assassination attempt he said he would never talk about again at least 1 time.
2. He will tell 77 lies and 23 half-truths.
3. He will personally insult Kamala Harris at least 3 times.
4. He will mention Joe Biden 7 - 10 times.
5. He will mispronounce words, slur his words, and sweat.
6. He will complain about how unfair he has been treated 5 times.
7. He will talk about "crowd size" at least 1 time.
8. He will praise himself 11 times for any number of reasons.
9. No matter what happens, what is said, how anyone behaves, he will claim he won.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
Trump's lies have accelerated from his early presidency until now, when he appears unable to tell the truth. He may not even know what a true statement is. In a recent press conference in August, Trump told 162 lies in 64 minutes. That is 2.53 lies per minute. The debate is 90 minutes, and with introductions and questions, each participant should have about 40 minutes of speaking time. That's sufficient time for Trump to get in 101 lies at his recent lying rate. Round it off and figure the over/under is 100 debate lies.
SomeMichGuy · M
@windinhishair ...yup.
For people into drinking games, you'll get a lot more drunk drinking every time DJT tells a lie than when VP Harris tells a lie.
For people into drinking games, you'll get a lot more drunk drinking every time DJT tells a lie than when VP Harris tells a lie.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
Less than Kamunist
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
yet you tune every day and listen and obey all the same ppl who sold you WMDs in iraq..
safe and effective clot shots.. etc etc.
shut up agent smith :)
safe and effective clot shots.. etc etc.
shut up agent smith :)
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fun4us2b · M
We know what Trump is gonna do...50, a 100....just add it to the pile.
To me the mystery is what Harris will do....I hope she has a good plan....
To me the mystery is what Harris will do....I hope she has a good plan....
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@fun4us2b
It's irrelevant what the President's plan is if he/she doesn't have the support of the Congress Critters.
To me the mystery is what Harris will do....I hope she has a good plan....
It's irrelevant what the President's plan is if he/she doesn't have the support of the Congress Critters.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@houseonfire
Have you seen those large crowds at sporting events? Those people have gobs of money. And if there's no food to buy the fatties will slim down.
If Kamala wins your going to be in a third world county and have no money and no food to buy. You my friend drank the cool aid long ag0.
Have you seen those large crowds at sporting events? Those people have gobs of money. And if there's no food to buy the fatties will slim down.
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
Not as many as kumguzzla will tell, she will play the race card and the Russia card and whatever else card she can play that’s not true
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
What is against it? @SomeMichGuy
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Prison1203 You would know all about guzzling from your time in prison. You are so focused on it that you constantly bring it up. Everyone sees your monomoniacal focus on it and your consistent racist comments. But then again, without them you would be drummed out of the Trump Cult.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
Mrs MoveAlong was right about you.
bookerdana · M
I'm going with sixty if his handlers have prepped him but should be interesting
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@bookerdana not half as many as kamalatoe. The biden administration lives on lies
bookerdana · M
@Patriot96 We shall see🙃 The MAGA is strong on this post😀
SomeMichGuy · M
Oooo! So number of distinct lies?
That's hard...he's a very good improviser of alternate reality.
Hmmmm...
That's hard...he's a very good improviser of alternate reality.
Hmmmm...
Vin53 · M
The podium placing is quite interesting. Their about 12ft apart and Kamala is on the rt. Its going to be fantastic show.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
The big question is whether she will show up sober
DocSavage · M
What’s the time frame , minute or hour ?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
I'll go with a minimum of 100 lies.
houseonfire · 56-60, M
Will tampon Tim be holding Kamala's hand tonight or does she have her big girl pants on and thinking about doing the debate alone.
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Jimmy2016 · 61-69, M
🤔.......I'll take the OVER on BOTH candidates...........After all, all politicians lie..........
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Hiw many drinks will the camel have? Over/under
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SomeMichGuy · M
@Patriot96 Your ignorance of DJT is showing.
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