@4meAndyou so to list out some of the thoughts I had about what u mentioned:

1. I admit I went a bit overboard when I mentioned dying but infact in 2025 usa gdp growth was shallower than expected rate, one due to govt shutdown, however some growth triggers which did manage to keep the growth at decent levels were a bit hollow cause

1a. "Buying Ahead" of Tariffs: Both businesses and consumers front-loaded their purchases to avoid anticipated price increases from new trade policies. Which again is a fallout of tarrifs.

1b. AI Investment Boom: Record-level investments in artificial intelligence infrastructure. This is another story of making a capital loop showing money as topline growth in another company therz alot of videos about it which explains somet like following
The Nvidia-OpenAI-Oracle Loop: Nvidia invested $100 billion in OpenAI; OpenAI then committed $300 billion to Oracle for compute power; and Oracle, in turn, used that capital to buy $40 billion in chips from Nvidia.
The Microsoft-OpenAI Connection: Critics note that of Microsoft’s reported $13 billion in AI revenue, roughly $10 billion reportedly comes from reselling Azure cloud services back to OpenAI at break-even prices, effectively looping the capital. It's called Venture Capital "Round-tripping": A significant portion of AI-specific revenue for cloud providers like Amazon (AWS) comes from startups that Amazon itself funded through its own venture arm.

1c. Strong Exports: Exports surged by 8.8%–9.6% in Q3, providing a major boost before the trade disruptions that occurred later in the year. So infact exports were doing good as such before traffis. Infact it may lead to Shrinking Volume in exports as the "frontloading" effect of trying to beat tariff deadlines fades. Plus the fact that Static Trade Deficit Despite the highest tariffs in 90 years, remained virtually unchanged in 2025 (declining only 0.2%), proving that tariffs did not effectively "rebalance" trade as intended.

1d. Inflation is going to increase because of war and S&P is already down by 7% cause of the war and if war goes on with 2 weeks it will be back to where it was when Trump took the office in Jan 25. It will bounce back again that's another thing 😅 cause stock market always does.

So effectively all the steps Administration took has hampered the economy in the short run so my premise is war is supposed to help it in long run by causing rift in global economy, attack on iran oil infra at South Pars gas field—the world’s largest, which provides up to 70% of Iran's gas production- have caused significant disruptions, prompting oil prices to surge over $100-$110 per barrel.

It has cause some long-Term Damage could take 3 to 5 years to become fully operational again, creating a prolonged supply threat.
Impact are predicted could reduce 2026 global GDP growth by 0.3%. But will help US cause they are not dependent on Iran for energy or strait of hormuz for that matter.

2. Regarding Iran not having nuclear weapons, makes sense, radical Islamists shall never have WMD as who knw they may smuggle it to religious terrorist which are all rogue can lead to disaster however Iran as a country I don't suppose will get into escalation of launching a Nuke on Any country without 100% assuring their complete destruction. It's not an easy decision to N bomb any other country it's almost assured mutual destruction.

3. Venezuela is a sovereign country recognised under International laws, just cause they won't confront US doesn't mean we can capture their president. There are diplomatic channels for that, plus who they supply oil to is their policy, which any country wud decide keeping their personal interest in site. Cause otherwise by that standard even Russias war on Ukraine is just cause they didn want Ukraine to join NATO for their personal interest and safety. For drug smuggling securing borders and find moles within the system is way to go.

4. Again it's business every country will look to benefit their own and break the monopoly be it trade or currency nothing to Judge there, US or any other.

Regarding weak dollar, US intend to weaken it, A weaker dollar makes U.S. exports more competitive but raises costs for Americans traveling abroad and increases import prices(which was also the agenda of all the tarrifs). Also it devalues the currency against gold, and it helps with debt repayment which is in dollars. So BRICS pumping gold up, selling dollar has infact helped US debt effectively reducing it. Which is also achieved by increasing inflation and devaluing currency.

5. The damage which has happened will take some time to recover probably years, yes the oil prices will reduce but probably the source will become different and relatively higher which will benefit energy dominated gdp of US which is my initial premise. The reluctance to join the war is simple, they want de escalation, already the energy they were importing from Russia has dropped from 45% to merely 14%. With Iran war raised the cost to additional 60%. They want end of it not force open another front where when Iran feels sided will become unrestricted and cause severe damage to energy infra will spiral the whole world down with it, probably won't directly hit US much cause of energy independence plus venezuela oil.

@Om2014 Once again, I am reading your response first thing in the morning without caffeine...but I can say right off the bat, even groggy as I am, that

(1) The economy, as you agree, is NOT dying. Oil prices WILL drop when the Strait of Hormuz is opened once again. The South Pars gas field was attacked by Israel, not the United States. Trump has asked Netanyahu NEVER to attack Iranian gas and oil again, and he has agreed.

(3) Venezuela is STILL a sovereign nation now, and is being run by Maduro's second in command.

His second in command is NOT, (as Maduro was), the leader of a Chinese affiliated drug cartel. Drug kingpins like Maduro have been declared terrorists by the United States, killing millions of our young people with their poisonous Fentanyl, and they are subject to removal with prejudice.

Maduro's second in command is allowing the restoration of Venezuelan oil processing and storage facilities by American oil companies. These processing facilities had been allowed to decay under Maduro.

Venezuelan oil AND some of our own American stockpiles are NOW being released into the global market to help alleviate some of the hardship associated with the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, particularly into Japan and parts of Asia.

(4) Trump HATES the BRICS plan floated by communist nations to devalue the American dollar. It is NOT Trump or our current government trying to weaken the dollar.

I hope that in some wise, I have refuted your claims that there is an ulterior motive in the attack on Iran.

@4meAndyou well let's just agree to disagree. We both are not convinced I guess 😅 I don't mind, anyways I'm not yet Judging any part involved so it's all just for the sake of discussion.
Hope u r well :)

@whippersnapper I'm not sure it's a religious war or war against terrorism, before it all started we were told it's for dismantling terror.

@Om2014 How does one dismantle terror by causing terror? That's a concept lost on me.

@whippersnapper that's entirely debatable, people waging war wud like to believe that it does. Inaction also can be costly and actions are barely restrained. We have fallout on either side of this. That's today's world for us.

@DunningKruger Um probably, but it penalized our nations by slapping tarrifs when they were buying Russian oil. Russian is very happy right now, cause the arm export n war support to Ukraine is down and it gets to sell its energy. And for sure trump knws how to manipulate stock market

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Oh yes by traditional ways of waging war. For every rise therez an impending fall cause we get complacent and conceited.