Republicans and Ukraine conflict

The republican fascists are now whining about the costs, and want to leave nato. They forgot that all nato allies payed for wars that America started without a cause.

It wouldn't and I say this as someone with a pretty cynical view of the conflict. The Republican line on this is partially true. Putin's invasion of Ukraine was a direct response to NATO enlargement and was (probably) entirely preventable.

This does not make Russia a good guy. Russia are explicitly villains who have invaded a sovereign country and are causing untold human harm.

All of this stuff is about geopolitical games between the billionaire class whether it be Russian or American oligarchs. There's always a lot of money to be made, but it's rarely money that goes to average working people since even if there's new economic activity, that money goes straight to the top.

What's interesting to me is that the Republicans taking a pro-Russia stance on this is the collapse of the decades-long bipartisan consensus on geopolitics which is very... destabilizing. Both political parties have always supported whatever wars are going on until Trump took office and now it appears that split is permanent.

It won’t benefit anyone. Right now, the Ukrainians are doing our work for us by weakening Russia. It wouldn’t surprise me if Putin is channeling money to Republican PACs through the NRA and other front groups as they have done before.

Pulling any level of support for Ukraine would be dangerous for the USA and the rest of the world. Trump desired to isolate the USA from NATO and the rest of the free world to further control the USA population. This is classic Narcissistic behavior, and DJT fits that profile. How much the GOP cuts off Ukraine I think will depend on whether DJT has the control over the GOP we see pre midterms. Once many of them are voted in, they may turn on DJT. They may no longer see a need for him since they got in on his supporters votes. It could go either way.

PSSSST the brown shirts of German fame were all leftist socialists. Not unlike the New Democrats of Canada. Kind of an amalgam of marxists and corporatists. They were and are extremely racist and anti semitic as well

It only exposes how week Russia is and China should pay attention. Republicans should be grateful to know what kinds of arms work and which do not. After all your guys spend a lot of tax money on it. Russia may team with China , so weak Russia should be in everyone interest.

Republicans became anti-NATO as soon as their cult leader Trump decreed it so. Trump despises NATO in proportion to his admiration for Putin.

@hippyjoe1955 says [quote]The nazis were celebrated by the socialists[/quote]
FAKE HISTORY,[b] LOL!!![/b]
Ever heard of Volkswagen? Ever heard of I.G. Farben?? Fascists supported corporations and private capital!!

In Germany & Italy in the 1930s,
the fascists bitterly opposed the Social Democrats;
the fascists bitterly opposed the Socialists;
the fascists bitterly opposed the Trade Unionists;
and the fascists bitterly opposed the Communists.

When I say "bitterly opposed" it means the fascists sent brownshirt thugs to disrupt rallies and fight in the streets against their political opponents. The fascists were a reactionary party reacting against the left wing at the time. The fascists built their platform on racism, nationalism, and fear of the foreign.

billions is trifling. compared to the trillions that reagan and bush 41 spent in the 80s. If you love the war criminal then just confess it.

Like the population gets a say?

I still don't understand how anyone was bullying Russia prior to the most recent invasion, or the 2014 Crimea annexation ... NATO certainly didn't shoot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 ... and NATO did not shoot down Korean Air Lines Flight 007 either ... if there is a pattern, it's not on the NATO side ...

Your deleting finger is about to get sore, lol. The brownshirts (or should I say redhats?) don't really have a good understanding of the situation. Some of them have told me Ukraine is the aggressor.