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This is how the cookie will crumble

I am done arguing with fake news and lies made or parroted by certain members on SW.

I will not argue, but, to provide facts and truth, I will post proven facts.

If that bothers you, then don't read my posts.

Also, I couldn't care less if the truth bothers you.

If you come on my post and are not civil, post fake news or otherwise lie, I will delete your comment.

If it continues, I will close the post to comments.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
I was told by one of those "certain members" that Facts and Truth are left wing propaganda. Good luck.
Ontheroad · M
@trollslayer that tells you all you need to know about that person.
@trollslayer i saw someone comment a few days ago that fact checking is fake news.
Facts and Truth have gone over a cliff like Thelma and Louise. I don't know if things will ever go back to any sense of normalcy.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@robingoodfellow "Fake news" once had a definition of news that was an intentional lie for purposes of misleading. It didn't include news that had the typical "political slant/bias". The focus was mostly on international actors or domestic troublemakers like Alex Jones.

Back in 2016, the focus came on right-leaning "fake news" because the majority of it was intentional lies to support the Trump campaign, without saying that the Trump campaign was involved in the creation of such fake news. MAGA folks took offense and bastardized the term and now use it to describe any news they disagree with or any news that has the typical political slant against their cause.

FYI, I was social media free until the summer of 2016, when I broke down and joined Facebook in order to keep in touch with family as that was the only way they communicated anymore. The political posts being shared at the time were a big shock to me. One of the first ones I saw was a post showing a large concrete wall traversing a desert, with the caption that this was the wall along Mexico's southern border, and if Mexico has such a wall, why can't we? My BS meter went through the roof because I know the southern border of Mexico is not in a desert! There is no wall there. Barely a chain link fence, and Google Earth can easily confirm this. Yet, this post had been shared and liked tens of thousands of times! I immediately wondered who was creating and spreading this stuff - and about two weeks later we started hearing about "fake news" and "Russian Troll Farms".
You tell ‘em lady. 💪
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Good luck with that!

Those are very honourable ideas but unfortunately there are so many people about who are not interested in anything, whether facts, mistakes or downright lies, not supporting their dogma.

Worse, many such people become very aggressive when questioned. No-one like being proven wrong, unless favourably so of course; but those types seem terrified even of being questioned, and of other opinions. They develop protective "them-and-us" shrouds: either you believe in A or you are a fool or a liar, even enemy... never mind all those believing equally validly in B or C or D....

Some are manipulative bullies, too, using not only naked abuse but also more subtle tricks common in the behaviour legally classed as "coercive and controlling". One is to refuse to present any explanation or supporting evidence of their ideas, while demanding you provide them for yours, especially if they realise you cannot do so personally. Another is continually moving their rationale, e.g. by denying or twisting anything they had already claimed some while previously.

I was arguing, along with several others, against a Flat-Earthist for some while before I twigged he was behaving in that fashion, using both tricks as well as openly insulting my intelligence.

Essentially, they are not interested in reality, only in wanting every one to adopt their ideology.
I'm willing to discuss issues with people who are honestly misinformed. But when people argue in bad faith, I just roast them.
Since you are retired Army, do you have an issue with everyone calling Walz command sergeant major, when he retired as a Master Sergeant?
@Ontheroad I agree. I know it says MSGT on my retired ID and that is what his has listed as well.
Ontheroad · M
@Sojournersoul I see it both ways. He was, except for completing probably SGM/CSM academy, picked for and given the rank of CSM.

That in itself is an honor bestowed on and earned by less that 1% of career enlisted.

So yeah, I get why people use the honorarium, but it isn't technically right.
@Ontheroad he chose not to complete the required course work and to retired as an E8. Just wanted your opinion.
I wish you luck. I appreciate your intentions, but I think its likely to get really tedious trying to police fake news, even on your own posts, on SW.
Nick1 · 61-69, M
It is sad to see so many believe in here say. And they think it’s fact and argue forever.
Cookies really shouldn't have much crumble. You need a new recipe.
NinaTina · 26-30, F
Block them is easier
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@Ontheroad what you think doesn’t make it truth , it’s makes it an opinion
Ontheroad · M
@Prison1203

Testing ideas with evidence from the natural world is at the core of science. Scientific testing involves figuring out what we would expect to observe if an idea were correct and comparing that expectation to what we actually observe.

Like I said, you got nothing, and goign on and on is you trying to disprove what you don't agree with (what is not you).

So yeah, adios.
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@Ontheroad no, I’m providing you with facts, sorry that you can’t handle the truth as presented to you, so from what I understand from you is that you determine what you think is truth as compared to what the real truth is , there is a difference between truth and opinion
Zonuss · 41-45, M
It must be an election year on SW again. 🙂
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
I think it’s a good idea because they aren’t going to regenerate brain cells 🤷🏼‍♀️
Ontheroad · M
@iamonfire696 nope, not a chance in hell! Ya gotta have cells to regenerate🤣

 
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