So was George Floyd supposed to prevent riots from the afterlife?
Charlie Kirk actively profited from making divisions in this country worse. He didn't go onto campuses to pitch his ideas and to promote certain values. He went in there to debate kids with little life experience and provoke them into reacting emotionally on issues they cared deeply about, all for the sake of selectively edited social media content.
He wasn't just espousing his opinions, he was purposefully obfuscating and misrepresenting those of the opposing side. He was adding gasoline onto growing political tensions instead of trying to bridge the divide. He was using people as a stepping stone to promote his own talking points.
Being a father or a Christian doesn't automatically make him a saint. He chose to dedicate his life to antagonizing others, and now he gets to reap what he's sown
@TinyViolins Lol .. and there is the telltale liberal name calling and unfounded claims. Yeah right, I'm the radical saying murder is justified if someone disagrees with me.
Do I need to continue? Of course they try to get out of it later .. but in the midst of riots known to be trending to violence .. they all called for more .. several called to bail out those arrested so they could continue .. knowing the likely outcome. That's inciting the violence that came from it .. as much as January 6th was wrong.
@BrandNewMan I knew you were going to bring these up. Waters made that statement in 2021 - almost a full year after the BLM protests
Kamala Harris made a statement to chip into the MFF only once - on June 1st, 2020 - at a time when protestors were mostly getting arrested for non-violent offenses.
The tweet was posted during a period of mass arrests of protesters in Minnesota following George Floyd's murder, which included many people detained for non-violent offenses like curfew violations.
At the time, Harris and other supporters of bail reform argued that cash bail disproportionately harms low-income people, and the tweet was consistent with this position.
The Minnesota Freedom Fund has stated that Harris herself never donated to the organization and that her connection was only the single 2020 tweet.
Scale of arrests in Minnesota
Hundreds arrested: Within the first week of protests, hundreds of people were arrested in the Twin Cities (Minneapolis and St. Paul). For instance, a Minnesota Department of Public Safety multi-agency command center reported 604 arrests in the Twin Cities between May 29 and June 2, 2020.
Common charges: The majority of early protest-related charges were for nonviolent offenses such as violating curfew and failure to disperse. However, some arrests involved weapons violations or more serious offenses, as authorities reported seizing rifles from some individuals.
Most charges dropped: An analysis in 2021 found that more than 90% of the protest-related cases in Minneapolis were ultimately dropped or dismissed by prosecutors. This supports the argument from bail funds and activists that many arrests were a form of crowd control rather than a response to substantive criminal acts
To be reasonable a dead man cannot start a riot . The people who hailed him as a hero may have started some riots, but he did not cause them. George Floyd should not have been killed the way he was. I know a lot of people disagree with me- that's okay ,it's America you can disagree with me. George Floyd did not get a trial or any sentencing. It was caused by a police officer who would not listen to his cries of distress.
Should he have been made into a hero? No, I really don't believe he should have . That still doesn't mean I think it's great he died or the person who disregarded his pleas for help should be exonerated. Every American citizen has a right to stand befor a court of law.
Mr Kirk didn't do anything that warranted death. Some of his rhetoric might have made people nervous or angry. He didn't commit crimes. He only advocated his right to speak freely about what he believed- I did not always agree with him or his rhetoric, but he should have not had any violence perpetrated against him and in that respect he was more innocent than George Floyd, but that doesn't mean George Floyd should have been denied his rights, because he's seen as a more despicable character. Because ,you see if we only uphold rights for one set of people and defend violence against other people we find more seedy then we like, then we go against the very laws we say we believe and that we should uphold. I do not see the correlation between the two whether a conservative or a liberal brings this up. Two different stories and two different outcomes,with only death being the common denominator. George Floyd may have been a criminal, but he was denied his rights, and accidental or not,his life was taken by someone who would not listen to his cries of help- I cannot celebrate that any more than I can celebrate what happened to Charlie Kirk, but I see them as two distinct incidents.
George Floyd was killed by a police officer. In this country, police officers who kill unarmed people often receive no punishment. Whoever killed Kirk will likely be given the death penalty. There is no chance they get away with it.
The reaction to Floyd’s murder was about the police and the unfair treatment of certain people. It is a totally different context than a political assassination. There have been several political assassinations in recent American history (one earlier this summer even), none of which generated even a quarter of the attention that Kirk is receiving, because he is more famous and more beloved.
But frankly I don’t care how liked he was. Whenever someone like Floyd is killed, you have people coming out to say “he was no angel”, “he deserved it”, now you know what that’s like, I guess. Personally I think unnecessary violence, whether from police or from a sniper, reflects badly on this country. And it doesn’t matter if the person killed was a petty criminal or a popular figure on social media.
George Floyd actually went to a decent church and even engaged in local missionary work, there is a lesson in this, Christians can still struggle with strong sins. Remember in my posts they may sometimes be misconcieved as condemning but like all posters, I am actually preaching to myself too.
Charlie Kirk on one of his last videos, promoted 'Voice of the Martyrs' a charity supporting persecuted Christians worldwide, sadly something lacking in many Christians.
@BritishFailedAesthetic I to get distressed at the lack of empathy shown by many people who call themselves Christians. Whether George Floyd was a Christian or not- he did not deserve someone disregarding his pleas and cutting off his air until he died. The man who killed George Floyd is not a hero. George Floyd was not a hero he was just a man who died who was flawed. Don't we remember that Jesus was kind to some of the most deprived people in the bible? That he forgave them. I do never forget that he told them to go sin no more, but he didn't automatically just decide they were trash unworthy of repentance. Is that something we conveniently forget when somebody's politics don't match our own?
Who was responsible for those two politicians being killed in Minnesota last month? And the one who invaded Pelosi's home and almost killed her husband? Anyone remember Gabby Giffords?
@ididntknowTwo different autopsy reports were conducted on George Floyd: one by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner and a second, independent autopsy commissioned by Floyd's family. Both concluded that his death was a homicide.
They differed on some contributing factors but not the cause. He died because of the actions of another human.
