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ElwoodBlues · M
Source? Evidence?? My data says the OPPOSITE!!!
In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 20% of the Covid deaths, while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced over 80% of the Covid deaths.
In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 31% of Covid cases; while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced nearly 70% of Covid cases.
This means the US unvaccinated had a 5X higher chance of contracting Covid compared to the vaccinated per capita, and that overall the unvaccinated had about a 15X higher probability of Covid death per capita.
Note: since 'Long Covid' occurs in 15% to 25% of Covid cases, that means there is also a 5X higher prevalence of Long Covid per capita among the unvaccinated.
Details & sources at https://similarworlds.com/disease-illness/vaccines/4268857-Covid-Vaccine-effectiveness-data-from-the-US-2021
In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 20% of the Covid deaths, while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced over 80% of the Covid deaths.
In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 31% of Covid cases; while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced nearly 70% of Covid cases.
This means the US unvaccinated had a 5X higher chance of contracting Covid compared to the vaccinated per capita, and that overall the unvaccinated had about a 15X higher probability of Covid death per capita.
Note: since 'Long Covid' occurs in 15% to 25% of Covid cases, that means there is also a 5X higher prevalence of Long Covid per capita among the unvaccinated.
Details & sources at https://similarworlds.com/disease-illness/vaccines/4268857-Covid-Vaccine-effectiveness-data-from-the-US-2021
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues I never read more than one line of your nonsense. You aren't smart enough to waste my time on. You are a nazi and have fully bought the social corporatist ideals of nazi germany. Sucks to be you.
ElwoodBlues · M
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Cut and paste is the debating tactics of a moron. Are you a moron?
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955 says
Back to the movie:
And who knew embalmers studied the internal organs of the bodies they embalm??
Oh, wait, unless the body has already been autopsied, they DON'T!!! According to
https://www.legacy.com/advice/the-embalming-process-how-it-works/
Examining the organs and searching for clots? NOT PART OF THE EMBALMING PROCESS!!! They might see a few clots as they replace blood with fluid, but that's in no way a medical survey of clots! If an embalmer is looking at organs, it's because the body was ALREADY AUTOPSIED!! And autopsied bodies are NOT a randomly sampled subset. They are a specially selected subset!! Which means you can't draw conclusions about the general population from a specially selected subset during a pandemic!!!
Now let's see, what do other embalmers say??
In short, others in the funerary industry do NOT support the correlation of abnormal clots with the vaccine - THEY see a correlation with COVID!!!
go watch Died Suddenly and. Grab a clue
When I went to school, they taught us that the plural of anecdote is not data. That movie presents a handful of cherry-picked cases, some of which are false. BTW, that movie was released Nov 21, 2022, and you've been making your outlandish claims MUCH longer than that. So you had no actual data until Nov 21, 2022?? Interesting.Back to the movie:
The woman who passes out and falls into a moving train? Her name is Candela. She fainted because of low blood pressure and survived with a fractured skull. That young basketball player who collapses on the court? His name is Keyontae Johnson, and his fainting took place on December 12, 2020, before the COVID-19 vaccines were readily available. He has since been medically cleared to play and recently signed with Kansas State.
These people are not dead. You have been lied to.And who knew embalmers studied the internal organs of the bodies they embalm??
Oh, wait, unless the body has already been autopsied, they DON'T!!! According to
https://www.legacy.com/advice/the-embalming-process-how-it-works/
Examining the organs and searching for clots? NOT PART OF THE EMBALMING PROCESS!!! They might see a few clots as they replace blood with fluid, but that's in no way a medical survey of clots! If an embalmer is looking at organs, it's because the body was ALREADY AUTOPSIED!! And autopsied bodies are NOT a randomly sampled subset. They are a specially selected subset!! Which means you can't draw conclusions about the general population from a specially selected subset during a pandemic!!!
Now let's see, what do other embalmers say??
Abnormal clots were found in COVID-19 victims "long before vaccinations were available," said licensed embalmer Monica Torres, of NXT Generation Mortuary Support in Phoenix, "and it is not uncommon to find dark blood clots in any deceased, not just COVID persons, who have been stored in refrigeration for a long period of time before embalming."
The National Funeral Directors Association, a U.S. professional organization, told PolitiFact that embalmers in its network have noticed similar abnormalities in COVID-related deaths, but among both the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
"It’s only anecdotal evidence, and there’s no scientific evidence to draw any conclusions," said Jessica Koth, director of public relations for the association.
The National Funeral Directors Association, a U.S. professional organization, told PolitiFact that embalmers in its network have noticed similar abnormalities in COVID-related deaths, but among both the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
"It’s only anecdotal evidence, and there’s no scientific evidence to draw any conclusions," said Jessica Koth, director of public relations for the association.
In short, others in the funerary industry do NOT support the correlation of abnormal clots with the vaccine - THEY see a correlation with COVID!!!
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955 And that's EXACTLY what I said! You seem to have a reading disability.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues So you think a mortician with decades of experience embalming dead bodies wouldn't recognize something new that he has never seen before? The calamari clots showed when the vaxes started. They didn't exist before. Now they are common. Gee I wonder what would be the cause..... V A X????? Some people are truly blind to the obvious and as a shining example I show you @ElwoodBlues
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955 Your reading disability seems to have prevented you from reading what the rest of the mortuary industry says - that the clots appeared "long before vaccinations were available."
Read that again: "long before vaccinations were available," is what the rest of the mortuary industry says.
"Long before vaccinations were available," am I starting to get thru your thick skull???
Read that again: "long before vaccinations were available," is what the rest of the mortuary industry says.
"Long before vaccinations were available," am I starting to get thru your thick skull???
ElwoodBlues · M
@JimboSaturn writes:
Arkansas mom Angela Morris shares regret; 13 year old on ventilator
Hollie Rivers regrets
Missouri man, 26 after battle in hospital
"Get it if you can"
Qanon star said only idiots get vax
I wonder why they want to believe all this anti-vaccine garbage, I would love to know the psychology behind it.
Whatever it is, it's powerful enough that only a near death experience can alter it.Arkansas mom Angela Morris shares regret; 13 year old on ventilator
Hollie Rivers regrets
Missouri man, 26 after battle in hospital
"Get it if you can"
Qanon star said only idiots get vax
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955 says
And yet, when I press you for a single link to a single one of the studies you tout, you repeat your lies instead of supplying a link. How droll!!!
Masks don't work. Study after study after study
And yet, when I press you for a single link to a single one of the studies you tout, you repeat your lies instead of supplying a link. How droll!!!
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Stuck for an answer? There are no deaths among the unvaxed. There is no deaths from being unmasked. So again why do you keep pushing the failed policies? People are dying from the vax. Well documented. Here in Alberta "Unknown causes" AKA the vax is the biggest killer in the province. Ever notice all the athletes/celebrities who "Died Suddenly" AKA the vax or "Died After Brief Illness" which again is code for killed by the vax. Your ignorance in this is beyond belief or credulity. You really are that ignorant of facts? Really? WOW!
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955
Repeating your lies instead of supplying a link. How droll!!!
There are no deaths among the unvaxed.
The unvaxxed have become immortal, RIIIIIIGHTRepeating your lies instead of supplying a link. How droll!!!
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
Because the vaccines do not work!
They are a con.
They are a con.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@Elessar There's no legal requirement to waiver my right to public healthcare under the Australian medicare system based on Covid vaccine status. I pay for my access to Medicare annually via the levy that all working australians pay. My employer never attempted to mandate Covid vax (because it would cripple the national transport operation that my employer runs). The NSW RFS did in July this year try to mandate Covid vax for all of it emergency service volunteers but as of last week has 'walked back' away from that mandate. The Mandate still exists but it's now 'waived' for volunteers but however I won't be going back.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@Elessar By inference you have made it about you and your position which you claim is higher and mightier than any other position. People are free to make their own choice about covid vaccines in regard to whether they get them or not, except in Israel. I follow the science which says while they are technically great products in terms of how when you through enough dollars at something a solution magically appears (remember that the outcome of science often mirrors the views of those who funded the research), but they have always been the incorrect weapon to fight the war (those are words spoken by a lot of pre-eminent experts) and the ramped up rates of immune escape, re-infection, and simply the stats about covid cases don't match with the claimed view of how the unvaccinated cohort is the primary vector of transmission. That's been shown again and again to be wrong.
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ElwoodBlues · M
@BernieDeVulva Nope, obviously he CAN'T back it up. Apparently it's just another right wing lie somebody's been spreading on twitter.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues I wonder why they want to believe all this anti-vaccine garbage, I would love to know the psychology behind it. I suppose it is different for different people.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues If you put it in a meme , it becomes a fact, don't you know that?
revenant · F
It is true but they will deny deny deny deny deny....
Populations with the most vaccinations have more deaths from Covid than populations with less vaccination rates3
Populations with the most vaccinations have more deaths from Covid than populations with less vaccination rates3
Elessar · 26-30, M
@zonavar68 This copy paste smells so much horsesh*t that even someone in high school would be able to call it out
C19 virus family
No such thing as a "C19 virus family". COVID is a disease and SARS-CoV-2 is the virus. "Betacoronaviruses" is the family, and there's no cross protection from one virus to another, in other words this vaccine won't keep your a$s safe from SARS-CoV-1 in case it shows its ugly face again.fake antibodies
No such thing as "fake antibodies". Let alone "triggering" the production thereof. Do you believe your body has a pre-implanted machinery for producing fake stuff to deceive itself? them it makes the immune system 'forget' about natural inate detection of Covid spike proteins
Huh? People who recovered from infection get reinfected just as easily, if not more easily. No coronavirus grants perpetual protection, it's also why you catch colds every winter. And you did since long before COVID was a thing.and totally dependent on the artificial framework
No such thing. Rather, I'll tell you more, I've fallen sick far less frequently (all the primary + booster doses) than my colleagues over the last few years, even accounting for every disease not even just COVID. I've taken at most 7 days off from work due to sickness in the last three years. No one I know in my city of 100k people, >90% fully vaccinated, has reported a difference in how often they get sick. No matter how many doses they've received.So stuff like Delta, and now all the so-called Omicron sub-variants, largely evade detection in anyone with multiple doses
No, they evade immunity from past variants and vaccine as well. I know personally people who contracted Delta soon after having recovered from Alpha (no vaccines available at the time). And people who contracted Omicron over and over, even after recovering from Omicron. Some of whom are at their 4th rodeo.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@revenant Evidence?
revenant · F
@JimboSaturn Just watch Fauci turning his coat at least twice a day
Elessar · 26-30, M
Because if you have 22 people dying out of 100, and at the same time 2,000 dying out of 1,000,000, you'll have the impression it's worse for the second group if you're not comfortable with elementary school level arithmetic lol
scrood · 31-35
Product works as intended to meet depopulation quota
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
I would have to challenge the validity of that statement. If most people have received the vaccine, wouldn't just the law of averages say that more vaccinated people should die? It's just math.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
FYI.. these 2 drs called BULLSHIT from the get go.
Max41 · 26-30, M
Now you can question the scientists , and their production of this vaccine .
Politicians are usually uneducated , so they believed the vaccine makers as well ,
even when it was not properly tested .
Politicians are usually uneducated , so they believed the vaccine makers as well ,
even when it was not properly tested .
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FreestyleArt · 31-35, M
Just follow the science.
No Explanation Just Science. 🤡
Take it from Joe
"For the Hurricane Victims are going through Crisis needs to be Vaccinated."
Yes....He did say that.
No Explanation Just Science. 🤡
Take it from Joe
"For the Hurricane Victims are going through Crisis needs to be Vaccinated."
Yes....He did say that.
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TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
why are ppl still pushing it.
and lining up for it.
hoomanity is doomed.
and lining up for it.
hoomanity is doomed.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Given that the jab in part reduces your immune system the 99.7% survivability of the unvaxed drops to around 95% among the vaxed. I am presently amazed at the number of sick people who are off work because of covid who are fully vaxed. Rarely do I hear of anyone unvaxed off work fighting covid.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
@hippyjoe1955
<| never had the day off.
Had the sniffle for 2 days about 2 years ago
🕺
Unjabbed united ✊🏻
<| never had the day off.
Had the sniffle for 2 days about 2 years ago
🕺
Unjabbed united ✊🏻
Budwick · 70-79, M