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More vaccinated people are dead from covid in the USA than unvaccinated people-. Why?

Was we supposed to do something besides getting the shot?
We're not. So there.
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zonavar68 · 56-60, M
Because the vaccines do not work!

They are a con.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@zonavar68

Doesn't look like so, bozo
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@Elessar The data does not split people dying 'with covid' ie infected buy covid is not the cause or contributing to the cause vs people dying 'from covid' where covid is directly attributed as the primary cause of death. I've never got the jabs never has a positive covid test result and never isolated or quarantined and when all the lockdowns were on here I still had to go to work.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@zonavar68 It however splits by vaccination status. If what you're suggesting was true all the curves would overlap. They clearly don't overlap.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@zonavar68
I've never got the jabs never has a positive covid test result and never isolated or quarantined and when all the lockdowns were on here I still had to go to work.
Congratulations bozo, I know plenty of people who are vaccinated who are in the very same situation. That proves nothing.

There are plenty who, taking the same stance, are 6ft under ground right now.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@Elessar There are a lot more smart people who refused to accept the so-called 'vaccine' drugs who are living better lives than they would have been under the 'fog' of having mrna drugs swirling around their bodies continually like mal-educated sheeple of the world who lined up all blinkered by the belief that without the jabs they were all going to die.

It has NEVER been about saving lives! We have NEVER been all in this together. The weaponised responses executed by various governments show this clearly. Just this week here in Australia a court ruled that over 30000 fines issued by police during lockdowns in NSW were illegal and invalid.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@zonavar68 There are, maybe, in your fictional parallel universe you've read about on some blog and taken for the ultimate truth. In the real world outside, the great majority of people got vaccinated and moved on.

As you can see in the chart I've previously posted:

Reality happens to have a pro-science bias, sorry.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@Elessar And I do not care about other people - ever heard of span of control theory? It is not my place to care about other people of the world except those around me that I can influence (basically my children and that's it) and myself (because I can control only myself). I got unvaccinated and my life has not changed one bit from the first day Covid was announced to the world. Since then it's been constant Covid-18/19/20/21/22 mantra and 99.9 percent of it is pure and utter bullshit.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@zonavar68
And I do not care about other people
Yes this is quite self evident lol

). I got unvaccinated and my life has not changed one bit from the first day Covid was announced to the world
Good for you, but just as you don't care about others I don't give a single f*ck about you. This post is indeed NOT about you, it's about vaccines in a general sense.

and 99.9 percent of it is pure and utter bullshit
The only bullsh*t I've read is the cr#p you and the rest of you copy-paste on here almost on a daily basis
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@Elessar Triggered! Bingo! The pro-covid vax crowd cannot handle being called out for their fallacies. performative allyship activism.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@zonavar68

The pro-covid vax crowd cannot handle being called out
Said the guy who evaded from replying any and every point where I've DESTROYED your nonsense 🤣🤣

DESTROYED with FACTS and LOGIC!
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@Elessar In turn your claims have been systematically destroyed by scientific truth and common sense. Ie. I made a medical decision for myself without being told how to think by you, big pharma, media, government or anyone else in the completely for-profit commercial healthcare industry. I chose to not get Covid vax jabs, I'm completely happy with that choice, fully accepted all consequences, dealt with them, and have moved on with life. Pro covid vax people cannot handle that and it's an affront to them to have people making informed personal decisions about their medical autonomy.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@zonavar68 You've failed proving EVERY single point. EVERY. Not one or two, EVERY.

I chose to not get Covid vax jabs
What's the part of "I don't give a f*ck about you" that you haven't understood? Because you're still continuining to speak about you. You, you, you. You. Who cares 🤣

I've given myself a bidet two hours ago. Interesting, huh?
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@Elessar What you choose to stick up your arse is your own problem. I am not required to care about the collective health of others.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@zonavar68 Look who's TrIgGeReD now 🤣🤣
Elessar · 31-35, M
@zonavar68
I am not required to care about the collective health of others
Me neither actually. Have you already signed some paperwork so that we, the taxpayers, will be exempted from paying for your care, in case?
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@zonavar68 You have given no scientific proof or common sense.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@JimboSaturn Common sense isn't really that common. Remember when the MAGA/QAnon were dying at such a disproportionate rate that Trump in person had to step down and endorse vaccines, or he would've soon ran out of electors to have a margin in states like FL
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@Elessar There's no legal requirement to waiver my right to public healthcare under the Australian medicare system based on Covid vaccine status. I pay for my access to Medicare annually via the levy that all working australians pay. My employer never attempted to mandate Covid vax (because it would cripple the national transport operation that my employer runs). The NSW RFS did in July this year try to mandate Covid vax for all of it emergency service volunteers but as of last week has 'walked back' away from that mandate. The Mandate still exists but it's now 'waived' for volunteers but however I won't be going back.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@zonavar68 Again, this post isn't about you. Nobody cares. My "you" is plural. We, the majority, don't want to see our tax money wasted and our businesses closed to protect a minority that failed its science classes.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@Elessar By inference you have made it about you and your position which you claim is higher and mightier than any other position. People are free to make their own choice about covid vaccines in regard to whether they get them or not, except in Israel. I follow the science which says while they are technically great products in terms of how when you through enough dollars at something a solution magically appears (remember that the outcome of science often mirrors the views of those who funded the research), but they have always been the incorrect weapon to fight the war (those are words spoken by a lot of pre-eminent experts) and the ramped up rates of immune escape, re-infection, and simply the stats about covid cases don't match with the claimed view of how the unvaccinated cohort is the primary vector of transmission. That's been shown again and again to be wrong.