More vaccinated people are dead from covid in the USA than unvaccinated people-. Why?
Was we supposed to do something besides getting the shot?
We're not. So there.
We're not. So there.
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ElwoodBlues · M
Source? Evidence?? My data says the OPPOSITE!!!
In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 20% of the Covid deaths, while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced over 80% of the Covid deaths.
In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 31% of Covid cases; while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced nearly 70% of Covid cases.
This means the US unvaccinated had a 5X higher chance of contracting Covid compared to the vaccinated per capita, and that overall the unvaccinated had about a 15X higher probability of Covid death per capita.
Note: since 'Long Covid' occurs in 15% to 25% of Covid cases, that means there is also a 5X higher prevalence of Long Covid per capita among the unvaccinated.
Details & sources at https://similarworlds.com/disease-illness/vaccines/4268857-Covid-Vaccine-effectiveness-data-from-the-US-2021
In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 20% of the Covid deaths, while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced over 80% of the Covid deaths.
In 2021, the 75% of Americans fully vaccinated produced under 31% of Covid cases; while the 25% unvaccinated Americans produced nearly 70% of Covid cases.
This means the US unvaccinated had a 5X higher chance of contracting Covid compared to the vaccinated per capita, and that overall the unvaccinated had about a 15X higher probability of Covid death per capita.
Note: since 'Long Covid' occurs in 15% to 25% of Covid cases, that means there is also a 5X higher prevalence of Long Covid per capita among the unvaccinated.
Details & sources at https://similarworlds.com/disease-illness/vaccines/4268857-Covid-Vaccine-effectiveness-data-from-the-US-2021
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues your data is what you choose to believe and has no basis in reality.
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955 My data, which I linked to, is corroborated in all 50 states and most developed countries around the world.
Your data is non-existent. Prove me wrong. LOL!!!
Your data is non-existent. Prove me wrong. LOL!!!
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues your data does not translate to the real world
PhoenixPhail · M
@hippyjoe1955 Did you mean to say, it doesn't translate to the real world? I'm confused.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues Everyone has a chance of contracting covid - the vaccines do not stop that from happening. The vaccines trigger generation of fake antibodies which only detect the spike protein signature of early 'alpha' and 'beta' variants. For everything else they are effectively useless and nearly every human that has come into contact with a variant of Covid now has developed full inate natural adaptive immunity, especially the smart cohort who chose not to get jabbed with the experimental drugs. The 'cartel' keeps pushing the vaccines because they are the vector by which the human population is being systematically attacked and as this keeps going, reduced due to effects of the drugs on human phsyiology. Long Covid is exactly what that is - drugs causing a long term effect on the human body. Not Covid itself. Covid isn't the 'killer virus' the vaccine drugs are the killer.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@PhoenixPhail Wormwood alledges that he has this data that supports the use of vaxes. The real world contradicts everything he says!
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955 Why can't you ever link to your alleged "real world" data? Oh, that's right, because you have none.
@zonavar68 Nope. The vaccines aren't perfect, but, as the data shows, infection rates in the US in 2021 were 5X higher among the unvaccinated, and death rates 15X higher. The vaccine provided that difference in protection.
Your "spike protein theory" is incomplete. Most antibodies that form bond to a fraction of the target, not the whole spike protein. And these "fractional" antibodies provide a degree of protection against mutations in the spike proteins. BTW, the spike protein is what attaches to and cuts into the cell, so it's the best target.
@zonavar68 Nope. The vaccines aren't perfect, but, as the data shows, infection rates in the US in 2021 were 5X higher among the unvaccinated, and death rates 15X higher. The vaccine provided that difference in protection.
Your "spike protein theory" is incomplete. Most antibodies that form bond to a fraction of the target, not the whole spike protein. And these "fractional" antibodies provide a degree of protection against mutations in the spike proteins. BTW, the spike protein is what attaches to and cuts into the cell, so it's the best target.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues What would be the point? You are closing your eyes to the mass die off of vaxed people around the world. Whistling past the grave yard is your specialty. A closed mind like yours is not open to new information.
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955 What "mass die off"??? You've got ZERO evidence, LOL!!!
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues go watch Died Suddenly and. Grab a clue
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955 I've posted my response to that collection of cherry-picked anecdotes elsewhere. But your answer begs a question: you've been making outlandish vaccine claims for over a year. Yet your evidence wasn't released until a certain movie came out in Nov 2022?? All the time prior, you were going on what - gut instinct???
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Not cherry picked. Hard evidence you can not accept. Showing once again your complete lack of science.
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955 DUUUDE!!! Please explain how the embalmer knew whether the corpses had been vaccinated or not. Answer - he didn't know!! And, in Alabama where he works, the worst Covid wave was Delta, our deadliest wave, with 80% of delta deaths among the unvaccinated.
How could the embalmer possibly distinguish between Covid delta clots and other clots without cause of death data? Answer - he couldn't. Answer - he got confused. Luckily, the rest of the mortuary industry spoke up and corrected his mistake. This is hard evidence you can not accept. Showing once again your complete lack of science.
How could the embalmer possibly distinguish between Covid delta clots and other clots without cause of death data? Answer - he couldn't. Answer - he got confused. Luckily, the rest of the mortuary industry spoke up and corrected his mistake. This is hard evidence you can not accept. Showing once again your complete lack of science.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Gee I wonder what would be causing the clots...... Use your head for once. There were no clots until the vaxes were introduced. Covid had been around for a while and there were no clots in the people who died from covid. So what else could suddenly cause the blood clots. BTW my brother in law who wanted to go RVing got the shot and died a few days later FROM CLOTS! What would have caused a very healthy robust man recently vaxed to suddenly develop strange looking blood clots? My friend a very healthy athletic man in is late 40s got the vax one day and two days later was in Emergency getting part of his bowel removed. Clots in his arteries caused a stoppage of blood to the bowel. He now has a colostomy bag. So how many years do you think you shortened your life by getting jabbed repeatedly? I remain pure blood. I hear my blood is in demand in operating theaters now. The right type O- and not vaxed.
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955
DUUUDE!!! Please explain how the embalmer knew whether the corpses had been vaccinated or not. Answer - he didn't know!! And, in Alabama where he works, the worst Covid wave was Delta, our deadliest wave, with 80% of delta deaths among the unvaccinated.
How could the embalmer possibly distinguish between Covid delta clots and other clots without cause of death data? Answer - he couldn't. Answer - he got confused. Luckily, the rest of the mortuary industry spoke up and corrected his mistake. This is hard evidence you can not accept. Showing once again your complete lack of science.
There were no clots until the vaxes were introduced.
The rest of the mortuary industry says differently!!DUUUDE!!! Please explain how the embalmer knew whether the corpses had been vaccinated or not. Answer - he didn't know!! And, in Alabama where he works, the worst Covid wave was Delta, our deadliest wave, with 80% of delta deaths among the unvaccinated.
How could the embalmer possibly distinguish between Covid delta clots and other clots without cause of death data? Answer - he couldn't. Answer - he got confused. Luckily, the rest of the mortuary industry spoke up and corrected his mistake. This is hard evidence you can not accept. Showing once again your complete lack of science.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Nope. The calamari clots are unique. Too bad you are so lacking of information. Oh well. Nazis like you don't need information. You have the government. Too Funny!
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955 The rest of the mortuary industry says differently!!
DUUUDE!!! Please explain how the embalmer knew whether the corpses had been vaccinated or not. Answer - he didn't know!! And, in Alabama where he works, the worst Covid wave was Delta, our deadliest wave, with 80% of delta deaths among the unvaccinated.
How could the embalmer possibly distinguish between Covid delta clots and other clots without cause of death data? Answer - he couldn't. Answer - he got confused. Luckily, the rest of the mortuary industry spoke up and corrected his mistake. This is hard evidence you can not accept. Showing once again your complete lack of science.
DUUUDE!!! Please explain how the embalmer knew whether the corpses had been vaccinated or not. Answer - he didn't know!! And, in Alabama where he works, the worst Covid wave was Delta, our deadliest wave, with 80% of delta deaths among the unvaccinated.
How could the embalmer possibly distinguish between Covid delta clots and other clots without cause of death data? Answer - he couldn't. Answer - he got confused. Luckily, the rest of the mortuary industry spoke up and corrected his mistake. This is hard evidence you can not accept. Showing once again your complete lack of science.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues So you have interviewed ALL THE MORTICIANS?????? Now that is funny!!!!
ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955 Your poor reading comprehension skills are showing again. Here, I'll post it again since you neglected to read it the first time.
Abnormal clots were found in COVID-19 victims "long before vaccinations were available," said licensed embalmer Monica Torres, of NXT Generation Mortuary Support in Phoenix, "and it is not uncommon to find dark blood clots in any deceased, not just COVID persons, who have been stored in refrigeration for a long period of time before embalming."
The National Funeral Directors Association, a U.S. professional organization, told PolitiFact that embalmers in its network have noticed similar abnormalities in COVID-related deaths, but among both the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
"It’s only anecdotal evidence, and there’s no scientific evidence to draw any conclusions," said Jessica Koth, director of public relations for the association.
The National Funeral Directors Association, a U.S. professional organization, told PolitiFact that embalmers in its network have noticed similar abnormalities in COVID-related deaths, but among both the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
"It’s only anecdotal evidence, and there’s no scientific evidence to draw any conclusions," said Jessica Koth, director of public relations for the association.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues I never read more than one line of your nonsense. You aren't smart enough to waste my time on. You are a nazi and have fully bought the social corporatist ideals of nazi germany. Sucks to be you.
ElwoodBlues · M
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Cut and paste is the debating tactics of a moron. Are you a moron?