Have you seen the video?????

@Dainbramadge They were probably going to shoot the kid.

@4meAndyou Yeah that's what I think as well.
He just shot first.

@Driver2 That kid did a great job defending himself. Lets be honest, he did EXACTLY the right thing. You can hear him walking around asking if anyone needs medical assistance. Next thing you know, he's on the ground with these animals attacking.

Some say "why was he there in the first place". I say "why were these animals rioting, looting, burning the town and causing property damage in the first place?"

@BizSuitStacy I'm not sure what other videos are out there of the incident but the ones I have seen show him defending himself against hostile aggressors. Unarmed but still aggressors.

@Dainbramadge I've seen several. One in which Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and a convicted child molester angrily confronted him first along with several others. Another of Rosenbaum chasing Kyle through a parking lot, eventually cornering him. That's where Kyle shoots him. Another of Kyle running down the street. You see him trying to give himself up to law enforcement driving by. Another as Kyle is being chased, the falls. This is where Anthony Huber, 26,convicted of felonious strangulation, false imprisonment, 2 counts of domestic abuse and use of a dangerous weapon, attempts to hit Kyle with a skateboard. Kyle, on the ground, shoots and kills him. And that's when Gaige Grosskreutz, 26, who had been convicted of being armed with a gun while intoxicated, draws his pistol. There is a debate as to who pointed the gun first, but Gaige engaged a man on the ground with a rifle and nearly got his arm blown off. The skateboard in this case, was being used as a weapon. And there is no question about the pistol. There may be legal issues for Kyle transporting a firearm across state lines, but I believe he acted inself defense.

@BizSuitStacy I think we may have seen the same video/videos.

@TexChik I saw it too. Then on top of it seeing the guy who got his arm shot off admit that he had a gun and was pointing it at Kyle.

@Dainbramadge yep … the democrats waited until Biden to prosecute this kid and the judge has slapped down any lib attempt to spin it . 👍🏻

@TexChik I saw that too. The Dems got all butt hurt about it too.

@Northwest Oh. I see what you are saying. I think initially we were talking about two different videos.
The video I was talking about was just testimony from the guy shot in the arm.
The other videos seem to catch most of the engagements. To me at least.

@Northwest don’t riot , don’t get shot
Case closed

@Driver2 Bam. Case closed. LOL

@Muldoon That was the same thing I got from his own testimony.
Maybe I should post the link or video itself if I can.

@Dainbramadge Dailey Wire, Nov 2, author Tim Pierce.

@Muldoon I searched what you wrote but I can't see anything about the trial.
Maybe there are other key words that could help me.

@carpediem I agree. I hope we are both wrong.

@Dainbramadge Hope so

@SumKindaMunster Sorry I took so long to respond I missed the notification some how.
From what I saw in the video they are just showing screen shots but you are right, if they haven't already, they should show the videos.

@FreeSpirit1 I know right. But I think they will still attempt to get Kyle on something just to appease the public that thinks he was in the wrong.

@FreeSpirit1 I also saw one witness say the other guy who was shot said he was going to kill people .... the prosecution is either throwing the case because they believe it serves justice or they are bad lawyers, not knowing what a witness is going to say isnt good. I dont know if he was the aggressor or not but if looks like a mix of both.

@Dainbramadge Don't know for sure, of course, because I know very little about the gun laws in those states, but I did hear it mentioned on the news and in an article I read.

@4meAndyou That, and where the hell where his parents when he is heading out the door armed with a rifle heading to a riot???

[SumKindaMunster] Ha ha ha ha!!!!!! " Going to storm the castle"
Mom " Okay son. Have fun." LOL

@Dainbramadge I asked my friends mom who is a defense lawyer and she said that you have to use reasonable and appropriate force to defend yourself. In her words you can't shoot people just because they punch you or chase you. You can however shoot someone who points a gun at you if you are in fear of your life.

Only one guy he shot had a gun. Shooting the others isn't reasonable force which kills the self defense argument.

@danawilliams2004 [c=1F5E00]"Don't think an empty hands attack can be deadly? One only has to remember back to the infamous Hockey Dad case in 2000 where a player's father beat another man to death with his bare hands." -Taken from an article in Shooting Times about this same topic.[/c]

[c=1F5E00]"While the law allows for equal force, the law also considers a disparity of force between the parties. That is if the attacker has a physical advantage over the victim, a greater level of force may be used in defense — perhaps even a weapon against an unarmed attacker." -Same article
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[c=1F5E00]"How do you decide what level of force with which to respond? Well, that's the million dollar question. You must do what is considered reasonable at the time of the threat. The prosecutor and jury — if it goes that far — will judge you by the Reasonable Man Doctrine: what would a reasonable person, with your knowledge, training and experience, do in that situation? " - Same article[/c]

These are just some points of view from a third, non-lawyer, perspective.

@Dainbramadge I think what hurts him is he went to a different state with an AR-15. Reasonable people don't attend riots in another state with an AR-15. If he was defending his house this becomes another conversation. But he went with the intention of shooting someone. Plus the gun wasn't even legal or his. He is definitely guilty, it's just a question of is he guilty of murder?

@hippyjoe1955 No I agree with you. I would have never gotten within 10 miles of the riot.

@bookerdana This trial doesn't seem to be getting much press.
I have no idea where the guy that posted the video got it from. It was televised some place I guess.
I was just wondering if anyone else saw anything about it elsewhere.

@Dainbramadge i don't know who he is but you might catch another vid or thee same on the tube

@SumKindaMunster I'm actually concerned about the up and coming violence in Kenosha. I have business assets in that town and not far from the area that was burned out in the "mostly peaceful" demonstrations (looting, rioting and arson) of last year.

@carpediem Well I am sorry to hear that and hope it doesn't come to that(again).

@SumKindaMunster We'll see. There have been threats to the jurors already. Steps are being taken to secure private property. You can't count on the local authorities to do anything but step aside and watch it burn.

@Lilpandaa How so??

@Carissimi Someone else commented that it may look like the prosecution isn't even trying.

@Muldoon You don't need an account to see it do you???

@Dainbramadge ohhh mannnn! You need an account.

@Muldoon I got one. I am a little embarrassed about it too.
It is a hive of copy cats that do the same lip sync to the same joke over and over and I am hopelessly addicted.
Shhhhh ... don't tell. LOL

@Human1000 Some say the prosecution isn't even trying.

@QuixoticSoul I'm not sure why you think he created the situation.
Could you elaborate a bit more??

@Dainbramadge The dumbass should have stayed home, running around a riot with a rifle aggravates things.

@QuixoticSoul I see what you mean.