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CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
I think a band should always change their name if they replace a singer that has been the core of their style for many years. It isn't and never will be the same band so the name doesn't fit anymore. The same happened with Christian Death and Nightwish. A large portion of fans simply never accepted and acknowledged the new singer and it's just a different band to them, regardless of the name.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@CrazyMusicLover I always think back to Freddy Mercury and Queen when they wrote the song "The Show Must Go On".
Music is one of those things that is truly transcendent. When bands inevitably lose or replace members, the spirit of the band, their sound and style, their legacy, it all tends to carry on.
I understand those fans and definitely agree that it will never be the same, but as artists and musicians, they're constantly evolving. Even from album to album you can hear different changes, and some fans are with it and some are not.
Personally, I see this as a net positive. The band now has a new drummer and vocalist, and it's an opportunity for them to try out different things, to get new creative input, and to honor Chester's legacy now that he's gone
Music is one of those things that is truly transcendent. When bands inevitably lose or replace members, the spirit of the band, their sound and style, their legacy, it all tends to carry on.
I understand those fans and definitely agree that it will never be the same, but as artists and musicians, they're constantly evolving. Even from album to album you can hear different changes, and some fans are with it and some are not.
Personally, I see this as a net positive. The band now has a new drummer and vocalist, and it's an opportunity for them to try out different things, to get new creative input, and to honor Chester's legacy now that he's gone
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@TinyViolins
This is what I don't feel though. I think different people perceive and judge familiarity differently and base the spirit on it. A crazy comparison but it's like when some people are used to a particular piece of furniture and when they remove it, it doesn't feel like home at home anymore. (My friend's story) 😀 To me, it's like the energy changed, the spirit changed, a certain charisma is lost. I don't say it's like that with every band because sometimes it works and the singer is replaceable but there are also opposite examples when someone is so unique that they can work on multiple projects and you simply notice their particular style/signature there, in case of singer their unique voice, of course, with musicians it's more complicated because the samples and playing styles get copied regardless of who invented them.
On the name change though, it's true that in our Western culture we don't tend to change names throughout our lives as individuals. But there's an Amazonian tribe in which people change their names several times in their life as they change as individuals. It's unthinkable to them that a person could have the same name all their life because to them it's actually an entirely different person in different periods of their life. And it's not just that someone starts to identify as someone else, it's when the members notice someone changed, usually through some significant event in their life (killing a jaguar, for example), they start calling this person by a different name. To me, it's mind-blowing and I can't imagine doing it myself but it actually makes sense and could be even freeing in some way.
When bands inevitably lose or replace members, the spirit of the band, their sound and style, their legacy, it all tends to carry on.
This is what I don't feel though. I think different people perceive and judge familiarity differently and base the spirit on it. A crazy comparison but it's like when some people are used to a particular piece of furniture and when they remove it, it doesn't feel like home at home anymore. (My friend's story) 😀 To me, it's like the energy changed, the spirit changed, a certain charisma is lost. I don't say it's like that with every band because sometimes it works and the singer is replaceable but there are also opposite examples when someone is so unique that they can work on multiple projects and you simply notice their particular style/signature there, in case of singer their unique voice, of course, with musicians it's more complicated because the samples and playing styles get copied regardless of who invented them.
On the name change though, it's true that in our Western culture we don't tend to change names throughout our lives as individuals. But there's an Amazonian tribe in which people change their names several times in their life as they change as individuals. It's unthinkable to them that a person could have the same name all their life because to them it's actually an entirely different person in different periods of their life. And it's not just that someone starts to identify as someone else, it's when the members notice someone changed, usually through some significant event in their life (killing a jaguar, for example), they start calling this person by a different name. To me, it's mind-blowing and I can't imagine doing it myself but it actually makes sense and could be even freeing in some way.
Oceanfire · 41-45, M
You have to be very careful when replacing people like chester. I'm sure she sings alright but she's obviously not on his level. And fans probably demand someone who is, or noone.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@Oceanfire
I'm tired of being what you want me to be
Feeling so faithless, lost under the surface
I don't know what you're expecting of me
Put under the pressure of walking in your shoes
I'm tired of being what you want me to be
Feeling so faithless, lost under the surface
I don't know what you're expecting of me
Put under the pressure of walking in your shoes
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
@TinyViolins you have no shoes
SnailTeeth · 36-40
There's no way she's a mainstay, Chester's son is upset about her being chosen, and within days of her arrival she's already in hot water over defending Danny Masterson. Tbh, I think as a woman, she should be able to hit all of Chester's notes, but she doesn't. She's flat on every single one, and has little to no emotional conveyance.
We're talking about a man who could hit Adele note for note, it's going to take someone special to replace him. I think the band needs a manager or producer to take charge at this point, because Mike Shinoda's not doing a good job. They also need to bring Rob Bourdon back, and replace Shinoda if they must.
We're talking about a man who could hit Adele note for note, it's going to take someone special to replace him. I think the band needs a manager or producer to take charge at this point, because Mike Shinoda's not doing a good job. They also need to bring Rob Bourdon back, and replace Shinoda if they must.
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
I saw most of a concert vid. I know they have been working together for a while, but I think this could backfire on them bigtime. Is she a Scientologist or not? There doesn't seem to be a straight answer, and the negative backlash is not helping them.
Following the death or departure of a lead singer, some bands go different and hit the jackpot(AC/DC, Van Halen) and others simply hire a clone(Boston, Journey). But she sounds so different and not necessarily in a good way, lots of keys are raised which changes the feel of a lot of the songs.
Time will tell. This could very well blow up in their faces. I'm curious about the drummer's bailing on the band. Did he just not want to do LP anymore, or did he not approve of the new singer?
Following the death or departure of a lead singer, some bands go different and hit the jackpot(AC/DC, Van Halen) and others simply hire a clone(Boston, Journey). But she sounds so different and not necessarily in a good way, lots of keys are raised which changes the feel of a lot of the songs.
Time will tell. This could very well blow up in their faces. I'm curious about the drummer's bailing on the band. Did he just not want to do LP anymore, or did he not approve of the new singer?
Longpatrol · 31-35, M
@uncalled4 she doesn't believe that mental health issues are real. Given why Chester died, I think it's in poor taste she was chosen to replace him.
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
@Longpatrol I'm inclined to agree.
SethGreene531 · M
Not bad. Seems like a bit of a departure from their early 2000's sound, but evolution is necessary to remain fresh.
Loved them, good to see they're still around.
Loved them, good to see they're still around.
Longpatrol · 31-35, M
Their singer is problematic
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@Longpatrol So I've heard. I didn't really dig too deep into her story, but I guess now that the spotlight is on her, she has a chance to tell her side of things
Longpatrol · 31-35, M
@TinyViolins she tried to disavow her support of Danny Masterson without actually mentioning him, or what he did. Nah she tried to tell her side without actually saying anything.
Miram · 31-35, F
Going to side with his grieving family on this one.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
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SkeetSkeet · 100+, F
I believe that when replacing a band member, especially the lead vocalist, they should be the same sex. Otherwise, it's a new band.
deadgerbil · 26-30
@SkeetSkeet I believe that when replacing a band member, especially the lead vocalist, they should be the same sex. Otherwise, it's a new band.
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
Eww 🤢
tenente · 100+, M
RIP Chester Bennington 🙏 agree really like the new sound 🔥