What created the first cell on Earth? God or Big Bang?

@BlueVeins The things that created the big bang....what created them?

The Big Bang event is a physical theory that describes how the universe expanded from an initial state of high density and temperature. Various cosmological models of the Big Bang explain the evolution of the observable universe from the earliest known periods through its subsequent large-scale form

What created temperature? What created the single point that the big bang expanded on?

@BlueVeins There's no such thing as the 'Big Bang." That theory was concocted by a Catholic priest. The universe is still being created from celestial hydrogen atoms. The only bang is from exploding stars.

@BlueVeins Space-time predates any of zillions of big bangs occurring at any moment in the cosmos.

@Diotrephes metaphysics 🤣

@Diotrephes what created the quantum foam and strings?

@HellsBelle [quote]what created the quantum foam and strings?[/quote]

The problem is that we don't know what the properties of [b][i]Nothing[/i][/b] are since in our reality there is always [b][i]Something[/i][/b]. But, we do know that cosmic creation is an on-going process.

What created the God character? People's superstitious imaginations. The problem is that no God is more credible than any of the other more than 33,000,000 deities humans have worshiped over the ages. The biblical Gods were simply men. Some were crazier than other others but they were all insane from incestous inbreeding. In ancient times anyone could become a God, which is just a title, indicating that the person held your life in his hands. Our national leaders would have been considered Gods in ancient times.

[b][i][c=BF0000]From the river to the sea. [/c][/i][/b]

@Pfuzylogic that's fine. Science is not a bible. It changes with knowledge

@Axeroberts It would be good if schools taught what you just stated!

@Pfuzylogic schools don't even teach spelling anymore 🙄 at least where I live

@Viper that's an interesting point of view.

@Axeroberts glad someone liked it... just to be clear, just an amateur theory, not sure I have enough knowledge to have a point of view, just trying to put random pieces together

@Viper always? nothing created it? something had to create it

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Making religion funny, that's a skill

@HellsBelle As I said, you can name the first cause anything you like. But naming the first cause does not automatically get you a purpose in life, an afterlife, a being that will answer prayers, a moral order, or any of the other meaningful parts of religion.

@ElwoodBlues ffs, ignore any religion aspect. WHAT CREATED THE CELL

@HellsBelle At the risk of repeating myself,

Fundamental randomness created larger and more complex molecules over a period of a billion years in warm sunlit seas, around hydrothermal vents and wherever energy was flowing. Fundamental randomness created building blocks such as hydrocarbon rings and chains and amino acids that glommed together in random ways. These would become the ancestors of bacteria and other prokaryotes (cells without distinct nuclei).

@WhisperinAngelic101
I would agree with this.
God’s creation is supernatural.
As described in Genesis God spoke everything into existence.
How can one use science to explain it since science is limited to the observations of man.
When God created Adam; Adam was created from the clay of the earth and then God breathed into him and Adam became a living soul. This wasn’t even something that Michelangelo could capture visually!

@InHeaven People who don't know God, random remote civilizations who don't have media or any form of outside influence. When they die, where do they go?

No, not hell. If it was not their fault they never had a chance to learn about @HellsBelle Jesus, He will save them in other ways. They can live and perform the Gospel daily without even knowing it. Only sinners who refused salvation , chose hell themselves willfully 🤷‍♀️They knew but didn’t want it

God (Jesus Christ) wrote his Law into our souls...thats why we have a conscience @HellsBelle If we have a clear conscience and don’t suppress it , even people who have never seen a Bible can still live by it. Then it only takes one near death experience where the soul can be raptured/lifted to Heaven where they can discover Jesus and accept Him and be saved. There are first Christian Egyptian Saints that lived in deserts or remote places in Egypt, that never learned to read anything and full Bible wasn’t even put together but they would recite Bible verses.... God has million and one ways to save people He gives many chances. Like, regardless of place of growth any person will feel that murder is wrong, the Conscience (Gods voice) will help them feel that its wrong. So, on the judgement day , those in random civilizations will be judged against their conscience. When Jesus was crucified and died on Cross He went down to hell and got everyone out who never knew Him or heard of Him during their life time.

@Unlearn Truly. I don't even know if we will know after we die. I assume not.

@Diotrephes And the odds of getting all the right atoms in all the right places is 1 E 42,0000. Do you really want to play odds? BTW there is no way to know how many of those planets are capable of supporting life.

@HellsBelle
Do you really expect an Answer ? We have no way of knowing it.if there is or was evidence , it’s long gone and beyond own knowledge. Religions simply provide a quick, simple reason which has no reason to exist.

@DocSavage No, not an answer, but an opinion that might lead to understanding

@HellsBelle [quote]These were random references and may be ignorant. I just know some cultures have a God of sorts, and in essence could be the same as "God" in the christian mentality.[/quote]

Muhammed is not a God.

@cerealguy I just want to know what created the first "point" of existence.

@JovialMoose ??? I want to know our beginning. I care. Don't bother commenting if you don't care. That's bizarre.

@HellsBelle It's not bizarre to care so much about something you could never know?

It's either faith or a guess. I'm guessing it all existed before existence mattered and life on earth started after billions of years of being a lifeless rock. We are lucky it exists and yet we fight to destroy it.

I also believe there are other rocks out there brewing "life."

@HellsBelle
You’re being petty. What created god ? And why would god create us
On another post, I’ve been arguing with someone who keeps going back to the Ultimate cause. God is not a default.
As I said, if you want god, make your case.

@DeluxedEdition yes but what created the cells?

@HellsBelle God

@DocSavage What created the chemicals that started the Abiogenesis?

@HellsBelle
Natural residue from exploding stars and planets.
It’s pointless to keep going backwards. If you believe in a creator, make your case.

@DocSavage that is the thing, I believe it is more. Something made the first expandable thing. More than religion.

@Max312 which make me realize more that people have different names for the same thing.

@HellsBelle yeah ...good luck with that 🤣

@OogieBoogie ....I asked the question to basic humans. I didn't expect to find the actual answer. I was asking for thoughts or ideas or theories, basically. Accept admitting you don't know an absolute and can share ideas.

@HellsBelle ok.
Well that's what I did ....I shared my ideas .
You questioned them, I dis my best to explain within my knowledge and belief.

I just have to accept that it doesn't seem enough for you .🤷

Which is also ok .👍

I hope you find what it is you are specifically looking for.☺️

@DDonde What is the cause of information? Don't forget the information is extremely complex. So complex it needs a special coding for the information to be held. Then there is the small problem of is the information useful. Kind of like having Google at your finger tips but can't read or hear what is being said. Simply too complex to ever have happened by blind chance.

@hippyjoe1955 You don't actually know that your last sentence is true. It's just a conviction on your part about the nature of complexity.

@DDonde No it is a true statement. The odds of getting all the right bits in all the right places is 1 E42,000. There are 1E90 atoms in the known universe. And that does not explain the information and the ability to use said information. Simply impossible since statisticians say that 1 e57 is impossible 1 E42000 is way way way beyond impossible. If I find a delicate watch lying on the ground do I assume that it is the result of an accident or of design. The odds of the watch forming itself is much much higher than a self forming cell.

@BlueGreenGrey what made the universe. what made "matter"?

@HellsBelle and its properties

@Axeroberts
They’re entitled to their beliefs. I want to see how they make it work. There are some obvious flaws that you can’t ignore unless you do it deliberately.

@DocSavage with only physical evidence you will miss how

@Axeroberts
What other kind of evidence is there ? Spiritual ?