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What created the first cell on Earth? God or Big Bang?

All roads lead to one.

Every culture has a different name for it.

God, Allah, Vishnu, Muhammed,

The plain fact is that something created the first living organism.

How can you disagree? Definitely way before Adam and Eve.

The tree that grew before them, means that life/growth existed before them.

Back to biology. Back to basics. The first cell, the first bacteria,the first organism, the first thing that could evolve, how did it exist? What created it??

If you believe in "Big Bang"....what created the things that create the "bang". What made the planets.

In my opinion..... It is so unimaginable.

So beyond God or any other deity.

Something, created space. Planets. Oxygen for human life.

Even if you believe in God and Adam and Eve and Jesus.... What created this planet. God, ok. Now what created all the others? And why?

In essence.....

What created the first cell on Earth?

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MethDozer · M

Chemistry. Life exist and was created because of chemistry. An applied physics. The universe works the way it does and things happen the way they do because they couldn't work or happen any other way. It's just that.

It's all just a series of physical laws and chemical structures.

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Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@MethDozer but where do these laws come from.

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts
From time and space
The elements got the opportunity to interact, that’s what happened
Now , of course you ask where time and space come from.
No one knows, probably never will. That doesn’t automatically mean a god.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@DocSavage but it points to a Creator of some sort at a certain point 🤔

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts
No it doesn’t. It means we don’t know how it happened. You have not data on the subject. You assume a creator. You assume intent, and you assume design. But you make these assumptions without evidence of anything.
Was it one creator with magical powers, or was it the result of a race with some form of advanced technology ? Does the creator still exist, or is it long dead and gone ? You have no way of knowing if it was ever there, or what it’s true nature is.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@DocSavage it means it's a possibility

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts
[quote] it means it's a possibility [/quote]
A one in a billion chance, isn’t all that inspiring. There are a lot of other things that are “possible “ and far more probable. So faith isn’t an asset here.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@DocSavage not sure what you mean but chance seems to go both ways. Like the chance of 3 billion amino acid pairs coming together by chance. As you say [quote]A one in a billion chance, isn’t all that inspiring[/quote]. And now we are talking about 3.4 billion base [i]pairs[/i]. So I think you can relate to my thinking

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts
While awaiting a bus earlier today, one of those “Watch Tower “ preacher decided to try his gig on me. He opened with intelligent design. He backed off after only five minutes. He could come up with one single reason, why a being with the power creation would make such a messed up universe, which is completely contrary to his own spiritual nature.

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts [quote] @ not sure what you mean but chance seems to go both ways. Like the chance of 3 billion amino acid pairs coming together by chance. As you say [/quote]
Not that inconceivable, if you consider the ingredients have been raining down on the planet’s surface for untold centuries. Besides, no one said they came together all at once.
God on the other hand, would not only have to come into existence in some incomprehensible manner, he would have to acquire his power to control, and create matter and energy. Form it into planets, stars, whatever, for some unknowable agenda. Which, if you accept evolution, would take millions of years before he could see results.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@DocSavage it's actually a short time about 3 billion years ago life started. But even in your own words you say it's not inspiring and now you change your stance

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts
Generally, god is considered to be the intelligence behind existence. If you had the power to create, why would you take so long ? Time is meaningless to you, instant gratification, is the thing. Whatever you could desire would be . Now if you’re god, and you have an agenda for creation, why not create the end result you want ?
My stance is, that a being with a billion year plan, is impractical. No god , no plan, no agenda, makes far more sense.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@DocSavage but I believe in a Creator who did it through scientific means and not the supernatural. Very different than what most think, especially religion. And my belief is from a personal experience, however from a logical point of view I think it makes sense to believe because some intelligence is clearly in the structure of this universe.

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts
It would still take millions of years. Regardless of the method. And you still have to wonder why. Doesn’t make sense as a planned deign.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@DocSavage and to me the structure itself makes me logically think there has to be something. Just like a blade of grass. you say all you see is a green leaf but we all know there is way more to a blade of grass than that. Life is no different. way way more than what we can perceive. even with our best instruments.

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts
I’ve asked this before : is the universe any less amazing without a god ?
Learn to appreciate things that are. It’s not that difficult.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@DocSavage How do you know how I appreciate things? what makes you think I don't appreciate things? Maybe by realizing this is all created I appreciate it more. Is this all you have left?

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts
I just don’t see why you need a creator so badly.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@DocSavage it's got nothing to do with need but I believe in my heart that this Creator exists. Does this bother you?

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts
Depends . As an Atheist, I prefer to live in reality as opposed to a pleasant fantasy.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@DocSavage you don't understand this Creator. He is reality

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts
The term “creator” implies an intelligent agent, reality contains intelligence, but that does not make it an intelligence itself.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@DocSavage according to who 🤷‍♂️

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts
Do you have evidence to the contrary ?
People tend to empower their god with whatever abilities they want. You have nothing . Every life form that we do know about, has never demonstrated any such ability even on a small scale. Who are you to decide the nature of a being that exist only in your ignorance ?

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@DocSavage ignorance? Maybe you are the ignorant one by stooping to this level.

DocSavage · M

@Axeroberts
No one knows what stated everything. The only evidence we have to work with is what we can see. You can’t see your creator, you can’t know anything about him, you don’t even know there is one.
That counts as ignorance.

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