Modern public schooling is completely worthless.

@Miram I feel like I'm missing out on some epic insanity because the person who you're talking to has blocked me.

why god....WHYYYYYY????? 😭

@cherokeepatti

And you are talking about what I know or don't know.

Whether or not it's your country is irrelevant.

My point remains, you have full access to information and you have no excuses to blame anyone for personal failures in that field.

@EuphoricTurtle

They are saying because I am not from the US, I don't know about the US.

This is after claiming that critical thinking isn't considered in the educational system. They don't realize that US curriculum designers were actually pioneers in study skills. They literally coined the concept.

It's ridiculous.

@Elevatorpitches yeah for some. They need some hands-on experience in the trade they are going for. Like working in the summers or weekends.

@cherokeepatti I needed it full time

maybe I wouldn't be a LEFT wing freedom loving creep now

I needed more hard knocks and threats and bullying by students and teachers and shaming when I failed, less books more NAILS and HAMMERS

maybe it would have helped

@Elevatorpitches Maybe so, and apprenticeships are good for young people too.

@hunkalove the school system problems started with the John D. Rockefeller who created the National Education Board in 1902 and it’s funding made it very influential in the shaping of the modern-day school system. One of his quotes was “I don’t want a nation of thinkers. I want a nation of workers.”

@Elevatorpitches Right, of course my personal situation wouldn't necessarily work for all children but most parents today expect daycare or elementary schools to educate their children and many don't get involved at all.

@spjennifer they feel that way cause they are working all day and no care othrwise

Its an institutional failure not a moral failure, they have no choice than to expect schools to do it, parents are just NOT HOME at all anymore they would be driven out of their homes otherwise

some choice no affordable daycare either for the younger kids

torn in a hundred different ways, modern families

maybe I knew that when I became a perpetual SINGLE

and hey I still can't make it, no life nothing but failure, was never anything BUT that 4 me

and my mother stayed home and helped us but I was a loser anyway

its never as neat and pat as people wanna believe how things shake out
and I myself have no explanation why I was such a failure when I had such an ideal upbringing, just like yours

maybe just stupid

@Elevatorpitches It is a different world than our parents grew up in where maybe the wife could stay at home, may not be the case now but still parents are more selfish than they used to be and have a lot more things to do now too...

@soar2newhighs nope

@Bados O que tu estás a propor é apenas o profissional MAIS cedo. Como é que miúdos de 11/12 anos vão conseguir tomar uma decisão dessas? Não tens noção que o ensino obrigatório é uma maneira também de proteger os miúdos que de outra maneira seriam obrigados pelos pais irem trabalhar assim que possível? Ficando privados de uma educação que lhe dá uma possibilidade de uma vida melhor?

É disto que se trata, a possibilidade de uma vida melhor, não uma certeza. Não é por teres um canudo que estás automaticamente qualificado para ganhares 2,500 euros por mês. Mas garanto-te que estatisticamente é mais provável ganhares isso com educação superior do que com a 4ª classe.

Estudei em Portugal, estudei em Inglaterra e estudei na Suécia. Treta é o que estás a propor.

@EuphoricTurtle Isto não é 1950 ninguém vai por os putos a trabalhar no campo aos 14 anos no máximo era nos computadores aos 14. E não vejo isso pior que andar anos a estudar ir tirar hotelaria e ir ganhar uma miseria.

A maioria dos licenciados, mestrados e até doutorados não vão ganhar mais que 1000 euros. A realidade é que sim é mais provável ganhar 2500 euros ao mes com a 4º classe se começou um negocio nos anos 70 ou 80. É a miséria de pais que temos. Queres 2500 ao mes? então é bom que sejas um boy de um dos partidos.

@Bados De tudo isso que acabaste de dizer...nada...absolutamente nada tem haver com o estado da nossa educação.

Salários são baixos?
Pessoas que ganham bem porque têm 40-50 anos de experiência de trabalho?
Cultura da cunha?

@Bados you don't have to be elite you just need money, I sent my son to private high school because I could afford 4 years of it but not 12.. I'm not elite, but I was in debt.

@FreeSpirit1 I am not american.

@Bados ok

@Stereoguy you can "choose" your parents to be lucky enough to stay home?

Does your mother have a choice in that?

@Stereoguy this is all I "meant": do children have the power to determine the fate of their own parents?

No its the luck of the draw

I hope you always have the power to see your kids able to home school their own and maybe some people would say its inevitable cause its fated

and I say its always the luck of the draw ansd also I had a great public education, culturally rich and well rounded

and I can't do anything to make a living but I would never blame my education and maybe I was just stupid