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I Hate Sociopaths

Sociopaths Show No Mercy...
[b]1 out of 25 people are sociopaths. Narcissism is part of this anti-social personality disorder. What is the chance you are seeing them here? We are not talking Charles Manson-you work with these people, interact everyday, possibly date or marry them…here is my experience, hoping it will help you.[/b]
[b]Three and a half years ago, I lost my only daughter. It is the only time that life has brought me to my knees with a grief so overwhelming, I begged God to take me too. I tell you this, not to elicit sympathy ,but to show you how cruel people can be.[/b]
[b]My best friend and his new mistress decided to seek revenge 3 weeks after I lost my daughter…he was mad I rejected him, she was mad over his feelings for me. Reasoning did not help. She told my boss that I threatened to hit her, hurt her and kill her to get me fired. Overkill, Yes!  But that is what saved my job.[/b]
[b]I was in grief counselling at the time.  He said I was dealing with sociopaths that were not allowing me to grieve.  He said they would turn on one another eventually and that is what they did.  Blaming each other for the others actions.  Here are some of the warning signs he gave me. .[/b]
[b]1. Look for the drama…there is ALWAYS drama around these people.  Look at what they write, talk about..blaming others for their misfortune and not taking any responsibility for their own actions.[/b]
[b]2. They must be and will do anything to be the center of attention. They will attack anyone who tries to take this away from them[/b]
[b]3. There is something not quite right with these people..you can’t put your finger on it ,but you know[/b]
[b]4. They are highly intelligent, charming liars and manipulators[/b]
[b]5. They usually have addictive personalities sometimes parasitic.   My friend had been married for many years but the lady had been in several failed marriages and was highly promiscuous. Drug and alcohol abuse can occur.[/b]
[b]6. They can work in teams..one is the brain who puts the mouth up to do the dirty work.[/b]
[b]7.. Only their opinion counts. There is only one way and it is their way.[/b]
[b]8. People fear sociopaths. They don’t want to be on their radar. It is easier to go along with them than go against them.[/b]
[b]9. They have no conscience.  They respond like they do, but it is faked.[/b]
[b]How do you deal with them?[/b]
[b]You can’t. They are not fixable. Your best strategy is to avoid, avoid, avoid. They will do everything to engage you in verbal battle. Since they have no conscience, counseling will not help.  

 Ihighly recommend the book "The Sociopath next Door".  This will help you recognize the symptoms before they ruin your life.[/b]
IWeasel
I don't have the time or energy to ruin the lives of everyone I meet, most people are too dull to even bother second glancing at. I could ruin the lives of everyone I met, but why would I waste my time? It's better to stick with one victim at a time so you can focus imo.

'there is ALWAYS drama around these people.' Well I still have to pay bills and shit so unfortunately no not always socios aren't made in Hollywood.

'They must be and will do anything to be the center of attention. They will attack anyone who tries to take this away from them'
'must' be? 'attack' anyone? C'mon, this is silly. Just because it's easy for me to get attention doesn't mean I need it or will 'attack' others for it, that's pathetic behaviour. It's much nicer being alone.

'There is something not quite right with these people..you can’t put your finger on it ,but you know' uh... yeah you do know don't you? Since this is an informative piece I sure would hope you knew what was 'not quite right'... you certainly tried to communicate it with your 'list'... So what is it? The mythical 'stare'? Or just the fact that our paralimbic system is defected? Hm...

'They are highly intelligent, charming liars and manipulators' Ah shucks.

Love you too, kindheart (kind hearts are the easiest prey)
fortensky
Very interesting...

It actually describes my ex wife to a large degree. I'm not trying to sound mean or hateful to her, it's actually sad. People like she seems to be - they simply can not live without major drama. The bigger the better and because of that they have problems getting along with people. An absolute inability to put themselves into another person's shoes. They're great at acting like they can, but it does seem like just an act in the end. And the do go to GREAT length for attention, any kind of it, especially the kind where they appear to be a victim. And they will lie like crazy for this end - anything so that the whole world's focus of attention is on them.

I don't know about most others, but she was also beyond insanely jealous, it was a pathology for her. I think they call it "Othello's Syndrome". They also harbor and abiding rage within them..

Thanks for posting that!
bcj
Milady

Thanks for this piece. It is also my layman's understanding that there is this distinction between the two types.

Sociopath will do things that are against the accepted norms - That would make Jesus one too. But they do not do illegal things

Psychopaths are will to go further and do the illegal and even murderous things.

As I stated this is the common (non-medical) understanding out there.

maybe I am just too stupid to keep up with changes in every specialist field.

Anyway, it is from this definition, the sociopaths who are really soul destroying to others because they are sneaky, they blend in are master manipulators and even machiavalian most times. They are charming, lovable and turn your head around before you know it.

love and peace
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Lilyfire1
I agree that I am sneaky and fit in with social norms. However, I will do illegal things, I am just clever about it.
Inimical
Not all of us are the way you described. Logically speaking happy people, friends if you will, benifit one more than unhappy, I keep those around me happy then in turn the world around me stays steady which is what I like, Mutually beneficial, some of us find knowledge more useful then cruelty. I need to know about people to do good, yes it is for my own good which makes it manipulative, but all of humanity is manipulative so I see no harm. We are not all evil
akindheart · 61-69, F
again, i want to thank you for helping me understand this disorder. I just knew I was running into something I didn't quite understand. My ex-husband was a sociopath and he managed to twist everything emotionlessly to look like it was me. I ran into these people at work and wondered why I seemed to be their target. Can you shed light on that? Do sociopaths target people? I watched 2 sisters eliminate their competition as they rose thru the ranks.
Inimical
Anyones a target, it generally depends of what ones purpose is, some have the purpose of destroying its all that makes them feel alive, they prey on the weak, some attention is their pleasure, in which case they destroy those who do not satisfy that need, then there are those whos need is something outside human interaction and only destroy what gets in their way, the couple you encountered were a combination of the first two, which although more actively destructive are less devastating than the third
Lilyfire1
yes exactly. Why hurt my friends when they are much more helpful happy?
SWagner1
I couldn"t agree with you more! Thank you for your post. My father passed away 4 years ago. I am now taking care of my mother who Is very Ill. ( I was addopted 20 years ago. ) all of her kid"s are narcissist"s. they could care less If she lives or dies.It"s all about them,what they can get ,or how they can use her before she dies.
One of her kid"s Is getting out of prison this wed. and moving Into moms house. the reason she Is In prison Is because she stole checks from mom and ruined her bank account.as long as I"m around they will still from me too. but ma"s 66 years old.I refuse to let them treat her that way. and I have no problem calling the cop"s
There Is no way to advoid them. they are bigger then life It"s self.but the bigger they are and the louder they get the easier It Is to do what Is right!!!!
FemInTexas
Goodness, I guess I'll have to add myself to the long (deservedly so!) list of people saying thank you. I have a submissive personality to begin with, so I've encountered more than my fair share of this type in my life The fault for this is mine though, not theirs. I've become more experienced, but I do wonder if much wiser in the end. When my wife was alive, she kept this type out of our lives and I was pretty much unaware they were even making those first advances. She could smell 'em at ten paces, I couldn't. Again, thank you for the heads up and the information.
akindheart · 61-69, F
PLEASE don't let you guard down..these people come in all sizes and colors..and believe me, I have become a master in spotting them..be safe..
PsychoDoll
Haha, we love you too. <3 ;)

It's hilarious when you think you know so much about us, when in fact, nearly half of those ways to supposedly spot us sociopaths were wrong.

We may all share the trait of being sociopaths, but we still have our own personalities. There is no way to spot us. All you can do is hope you don't cross us.
akindheart · 61-69, F
this needs to go to court. you need intervention..take it to your attorney.
Lilyfire1
mwahahaha
Lilyfire1
Tell him you won't be manipulated. I would go away after that.
akindheart · 61-69, F
bcj-my sentiments exactly on the difference of psychopaths and sociopaths...i totally agree..and fortensky...i am so sorry for your pain..i recently dated a sociopath..nothing he said made sense. It was all about him..I wondered how he could get along with other women..well he can't..unless they feed his needs..i refused hence we are not together..and when i see him with another woman for any lengths of time, I shudder..she is either just like him or is going to get totally blown away...
Prokamin
But you forgot the strenghts.
Prokamin
Ive read none but yes studies. Ah funny fact, I though that everyone was an actor, that empathy was politeness only. And at the same time found stupid that people act like they believe each other. Like why so teatral doing like they believe ? It was confuse but anyway, they was doing what I wanted. Than I understood they were not playing. Its different, me its a non psychopatic person that I still dont get at 100%. I am surprised that 18 yrs old kids here figured it all yet. That made me doubt their diagnosis reading them. Too fast aware.
akindheart · 61-69, F
i didn't know what it was until my friend said that i was always in trouble with people...then i saw the pattern. it was not me, it was them...sociopaths trying to get me out of the way...
Prokamin
As you said, there is more than people think and in all shapes everywhere and if you have more feelings its emotionally draining I know.
akindheart · 61-69, F
Please don't confuse sociopaths with psychopaths...those are the murderers.. this is the most fascinating phenomena i have ever encountered..you want to make them see right, but they won't..don't waste your breath on these people. I slowly extricate myself out of any relationship when i sense this is what is wrong.
hugs honey and thanks for posting..
TheySeeMeTrollin
I was best friends with one. She fucking made shit up about me and ruined my reputation. If she doesn't care about me why does she still talk about me and try to make others hate me?
TheySeeMeTrollin
I undid what she did. Changed my password, got rid of the experiences that she put and the groups also my name and now she's slagging off to me on the phone cos I changed the details on my account. She can't control me no more. I can't believe it though. We broke up yet she still thinks she can control me. Ridiculous.
Lilyfire1
Maybe she just wants to manipulate you. Judging by how upset you sound, you sound easy to manipulate.
Lilyfire1
Maybe you should tell her that she can't control you. She might find someone easier to manipulate.
Tkldpink
I even read "The Sociopath Next Door" five years ago, and this still happened to me. Despite the fact that I am hurt and angry with him, I am more angry at myself for getting into the situation with him.
akindheart · 61-69, F
I read that book too and it made sense. so much sense, I kept it ...there are many more books like that. I am currently reading Sharks in Suits. about work sociopaths. please message me. i would love to talk to you..and you were NOT responsible for being sucked into the man's web. I know how you feel-it is very hard to get over it.
Lilyfire1
It's not your fault. We can be very charming, if I do say so myself.
akindheart · 61-69, F
Good for you Swagner1..hang tough. Once you experience these people, you will never be the same..they can be as smooth as silk, but rotten to the core..i wish you the best..I don't know if you believe in God but your reward will come..hugs..
bloodblisters
This is so true, dealing with it right now, and just amazed at the ends one of these people will go to. The advice, avoid, avoid, avoid is spot on. You can't reason with one of these people, it's not even a possibility.
akindheart · 61-69, F
you are so right! they lie and then lie about their lies..
SeeingIsNotBelieving
Sociopaths don't have no emotions. Psychopaths do not having a sense of empathy or morality, but sociopaths have a differing in sense of right and wrong from the average person.
Lilyfire1
yes. Thank you.
SeeingIsNotBelieving
No problem. I just hate it when people stereotype us.
Prokamin
Sometime its not on purpose. No concience plus no limit means very daring. When you dare things happen. Collateral messed people happen. And the neutrality about it, people think its hate. Its indiference. Its not bad or good its nothing.
mrpbnj
I'm an emotionless monster apparently......... That's what my shrink says...........And I always thought I was a nice person........Maybe I need a second opinion............
akindheart · 61-69, F
oh no..do you think you fit the sociopath role?
mrpbnj
no but my therapist does ;-(
billstew
In the US, more like 1 out of 15 people are sociopaths ... if you extend the definition to people behaving against the local or regional or national interest. However, this is my censored view ... gray propaganda as it were.
SeeingIsNotBelieving
Not all sociopaths are narcissitic. I should know.
Lilyfire1
heheh me too
akindheart · 61-69, F
I have read just about everything i can get my hands on regarding this subject. I am fully aware of the difference and all the different nuances about anti social personality disorder. and believe me, there is nothing romantic about the word or the subject. I believe we label things to make them easier to understand. Although not an expert, I can recognize one a mile or two away.
akindheart · 61-69, F
oh i am sorry!! thank you
akindheart · 61-69, F
Brooza,, you are a doll...and thank you for the kind comments..having come into contact with these people, it is an experience i can live without..like my boss today for instance..another sociopath...hugs honey.
akindheart · 61-69, F
Good observation..I was under the impression that the Charlie Manson's were the psychopaths not sociopaths but i was told i was wrong..
akindheart · 61-69, F
thankyou gentlemen..the bottom line is that they are people to avoid whatever the statistics..
fungirlmmm
Interesting post. When I think of sociopath i think of murderers. Again, thanks for sharing.
Lilyfire1
well how rude. I've never ruined someones life.

 
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