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How to make up with my daughters after periods of bipolar depression: [I Bipolar]

Is there more I can do to apologize to them?

My story:

I recently had a bipolar manic high that put me into the hospital for a month. This is my first incident since I was first diagnosed 20 yrs ago. Just the perfect storm of quarantine, lose of income, getting my car repossessed.

My daughters 15 & 12 and my son 10 were traumatized.

So as my kids were put in therapy with their mom (my ex wife) my daughters. put together over the years how sick I have been.

During the year I would have depressive episodes ( mania wasn't much of an issue) and my daughters said they were really angry for the times I was in bed most of the day and they had to take care of themselves.

I thought it was good enough when I told them "Dad's feeling low, I'm gonna sleep in today til afternoon" but it wasn't and I was wrong to treat them this way.

They are so angry and now they stopped living with me...after being at my place for 7 years for 3-4days week.

This is what I have been saying:

[b]"I'm sorry for lying to you when I was depressed and making you look after yourselves when you were just kids. I take responsibility for the pain this caused. Can you forgive me and trust me again?"[/b]

As kids they dont care I was mentally depressed, they just know they were hurt.

Help? its been 2 months now
dragonfly46 ยท F
Kids are really smart and usually do well with truth and age appropriate information. I'd ask your kids if they are interested in your diagnosis and then educate them. Their fear, which is coming through as anger, could be in fact a fear of the unknown. Show them books, Ted talks, anything with information. Maybe books or a support group for the families of bipolar or mentally ill family members. NAMI is a great organization that specializes in families with a mentally ill member. Hang in there. Asking this question tells me you are a good dad who is trying his best.
๐Ž๐ก ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐ข๐ž๐ง๐. ๐ˆ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐จ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ซ๐ซ๐ฒ. ๐“๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ, ๐ž๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ž๐œ๐ข๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐ซ๐ž๐š๐œ๐ก ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐š๐ ๐ž, ๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ข๐ฆ๐ž ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ข๐ซ ๐ฅ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ž, ๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐œ๐š๐ง ๐ฐ๐ซ๐š๐ฉ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ข๐ซ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ ๐š๐ซ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐ ๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐๐ž๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ข๐ฌ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ก๐จ๐ฐ ๐ข๐Ÿ ๐š๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐ž๐œ๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐ž๐จ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž. ๐˜๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ž ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐›๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ญ ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ ๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐š๐ค๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ข๐ญ ๐ก๐š๐ซ๐ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฆ. ๐ˆ๐ญ๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฆ ๐ข๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ž. ๐˜๐จ๐ฎ ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐š ๐ ๐จ๐จ๐ ๐๐š๐, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐ค๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฏ๐ž ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ, ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐›๐ž ๐จ๐ค๐š๐ฒ. ๐ˆ๐ญ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ญ๐š๐ค๐ž ๐š ๐ฅ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐ฅ๐ž ๐ฅ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ž๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ง ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐š๐ง๐ญ
(ใค .โ€ขฬ _ส– โ€ขฬ€.)ใค
Just how much do they know about your bipolar disorder and the way that it affects you???

They are at an age now, where they need to learn about it and you are going to have to open up to them so that they can understand what it's like for you on the inside, at the same time as accepting your part in the pain that they are feeling. It may be worth reassuring them that nothing that happened was their fault and that there was nothing they could do to prevent it.

They may also feel reassured if you sit down together and plan out what you will all do in the event that this happens again. If you have a plan as a family and each person plays their part in ensuring that you get the help that you need and they know to ring this trusted adult.

Since they are in therapy right now, are you able to be involved with that and talk it through with the therapists that they are seeing? They may be able to help you to get the ball rolling on all that.
Mindful ยท 56-60, F
Sincere honest talk.
If you have a medical diagnosis, they will work they it with you.

Do you forgive others? Or do you hold grudges. If you are forgiving with them they will be forgiving with you. It might take time.

Also: be strong. Children want to see your strength as often as possible . Donโ€™t be a whimp
Sounds like you did the best you could during those times and one day they will understand that. But for now I think itโ€™s important you sit with their feelings, reflect/acknowledge that they felt angry, hurt , abandoned whatever else it was without trying to explain your side. Remember they are just kids trying to process the trauma so just try and keep a safe space for them as their dad and itโ€™s going to take time. You are doing so well mate!
Heyho... I can't respond to your reply (he blocked me) - so I started another comment thread.

I don't mind helping and supporting you as best as I can. It's helpful for me to get some insight into bipolar disorder from the angle of someone who is going through it... even though I can no longer handle stress anymore on medical grounds myself.
thedarkshadow ยท M
Thank you @notladylike @mindful @becksta @dragonfly46 @lubaluboo

Reading and processing all these encouraging words and wise advice. Will respond more soon.

grateful for your support
Iwillwait ยท M
May I ask how the manic episode resulted in your hospitalization?
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@Iwillwait I don't care who you were talking to. He obviously omitted that detail because he doesn't want it to be public knowledge - but, even without it, you should know that a lot of manic episodes end in a trip to the hospital.

Kindly point out to me the point where I was "on your back" as you put it - because, as far as I can see, I only said that there's no need for you to know that and shared some more general information about the subject.

If you really are this sensitive, then, maybe SW isn't the right place for you to be hanging out.
thedarkshadow ยท M
@HootyTheNightOwl
Hey I appreciate this. You really get me and it was pretty traumatic . I responded to @iwillwait with this message ...and I donโ€™t hold it against him....mania is really hard to translate and understand and Iโ€™m sure curiosity is there as well as empathy ....anyhow I sincerely am grateful for the support here. It means the world to me and Iโ€™m just rebuilding my life in recovery from this brain based illness . <3


Message was:
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Hey no problem.
Itโ€™s a really traumatic frightening thing. Like being mind raped, or on a terrible drug trip. The guilt and shame I felt afterwards is intense.
Sorry that I canโ€™t share what happened yet....suffice to say I donโ€™t remember some of the things I said or did but it wasnโ€™t โ€œmeโ€. Itโ€™s the disconnect that is opposite of feeling depressed. You feel so great there is no stopping you . โ€œBipolar is the only disorder that when you feel great ...watch outโ€ is what we share at peer group. Iโ€™m part of obad.ca

Thanks for reaching out, Iโ€™m sorry your family has struggled with this too....lots of compassion k? Nobody wants to be sick . Iโ€™ll share sometime thanks ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿฝ

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