Is abortion still about eugenics?

Ronald Reagan- seems like all those for pro abortion, have already been born!..

To answer the first question, when people increasingly demanded not to be subjected to moral standards imposed by a religion they themselves don't follow.

Abortion is to eugenics what a bidet is to snorkeling, or vaccination is to the holocaust, to use some other idiotic comparison the right use(d?) in their delusional everyday communications.

Margaret Sanger set the bar for reducing the number of undesirables. Abortion is still about this. Among blacks the most dangerous place for a black person is in his mother's womb.

There is a middle position that is pragmatic. I support that women do get pregnant when they were really trying not to, and I oppose the government's hand in forcing her to carry it to term. I also accept that there is a point where the baby can live outside the womb and there is a difference between ending a pregnancy and ending a life. There is that middle ground where we can help women that don't want to become mothers yet, but also protect the unborn.

So, does my stance piss you off, or does it make sense?

I don’t recall abortion ever being for that reason. So I’m going to go with a meaning changing over time, which there is nothing wrong with that. Something that could have had a negative beginning, doesn’t still need to carry a negative emotion when the procedure is logically beneficial. It’s normal for a species to fine tune which offspring continues to live. Of course the rationale justifies it’s use because intention is what’s most important.

China has a culture issue, not an abortion issue. If that is your problem, push for society to value women more. Don’t minimize our rights to control our own body to push some pro-life narrative.

No, they are not the ones who are expected to always care for that baby no matter what. Society puts a lot more pressure on women and mothers, than they do men. It’s also not their body that is going to be permanently changed or damaged.

If a man is in a loving relationship with a woman and the woman is considering a termination then I think it's totally important to have her man involved in the entire process. Whether or not the man has the 'right' to object is another story. Same as with pregnancy - women who reject and shut our their man during pregnancy (and birthing) or the process of considering to end one which are intrinsicly inter-connected are grossly disrespecting the love of their partner (which probably means the woman really doesn't love her partner at all).

It didn't, those are two separate things, a woman (or more likely, a couple) has the right to choose to terminate a pregnancy if after prenatal screening they find a big probability that the baby will be born with certain unwanted conditions. I can't speak for all countries obviously, but I know for a fact in my country you can do it up until the 25th week or in some cases without even a time limit.
That being said, I have no idea what the law in China is about this, but I think in most countries they don't allow this, abortion is usually allowed until the 1st trimester without questioning the reason and after that, it's allowed on certain conditions.
What can be done about the surplus... not much really, they have to realize on their own how sexism and misogyny ended up being bad for their society and live with their decisions now.
I don't see the reason or how that could even practically happen. Like let's say a woman wants an abortion and a man doesn't, what's going to happen? Take the case to court? Or the opposite, a man forcing a woman to have an abortion. Just imagine how that would play out.

If a guy wants to take care of a baby, and the woman (because only women can get prego) wants to abort that same baby, then the guy should be able to have a say and take care of his child. Men tend to get left out of the whole process and it is complete bullshit!

I personally know a guy that would make a fantastic father... if he were given the chance. Instead, he spends his time busting his ass and wondering where his child is at and if they are doing OK.😢

If everyone is being realistic and honest, the decision was made as soon as two people decided to have intercourse. We all know where babies come from, so even if you use protection, and you decide to go for it, there was a decision made to take that chance.

If anyone disagrees with me, feel free to block me.

Right because one person having a couple garbage ideas decades ago magically makes conspiracy theories true. 🤦‍♂️

Roe roe roe roe roe roe roe your boat. Tired of hearing it. Nobody worried about the BABIES RIGHTS. GOD IS!!!!! They have a soul.

A pregnant woman never says "I just felt the fetus kick!".
She says "I just felt the baby kick!". Hmmmm

One of the very few things that’s more important even than life is bodily autonomy. A woman’s got a right to decide what does or doesn’t grow inside of her. If in other countries maybe abortion is being forced upon women for eugenic purposes, then that’s wrong.

Other than that I’d just like to say that I’m under a strong impression that abortion is a really complicated issue with few if any simple answers and that I’m no expert on it.

I believe in man should have a say my opinion

Well said indeed
It’s a regression

Looks like some states are going to end up doing away with invetro fertilization at least as an unintended side effect. Maybe those couples can get an adoption from a forced to carry pregnancy.

Whatever. Social planning, family planning-. Nobody is familiar with family! You do get horrific fictions like eugenics. Murka is on TV in its mind.

Was it EVER about eugenics for women? Or for most men?

Chinese politics are not my concern sry

No its not about eugenics. Abortion has been around for very long time.

Abortion was here since the beginning of time. They're using this as a political wedge to divide and conquer. Eugenics is a scam.

Yes, absolutely.

No.