So many people dying before reaching "Average Life Expectancy"
How come I am still here?
Seems like I am entering the "At Risk" range - 60 to 70
Seems like I am entering the "At Risk" range - 60 to 70
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samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Life expectancy is based on the expected life of a newborn at the time. There are also predictions based on current age, very different. It may seem counterintuitive, but, at my age, 80, my life expectancy is to live more than the US average life expectancy, because I am already 80, older than the average US male's current life expectancy.
That doesn't mean that you should not try to do whatever you can to prolong your life, wear a seat belt, don't smoke, etc.
That doesn't mean that you should not try to do whatever you can to prolong your life, wear a seat belt, don't smoke, etc.
SomeMichGuy · M
@KiwiBird Thanks, but if you knew that, why say something other than the truth?
And why would you think that
[quote]Given the world's population these are likely to be the same or very close.[/quote]
??
Your response shows you don't understand
• Actuarial statistics, which are really important here: from the old US standard mortality tables, for instance, a person (in America) is more likely to die in the first two years of life than on the third year and beyind, for many years.
• Factors which affect longevity:
- Attitudes toward healthy living.
• vaccinations--a whole set of people are more interested in personal freedom than life, resulting in loss of herd immunity for polio and (likely) other things. CoViD has reduced our lifespans, and people are choosing to die/pass on death, and it's to the pount that you can infer political beliefs from CoViD vaccination & death rates.
• substance abuse--drinking, smoking, vaping, etc.
• weight control--heck, we have people here who are very much into being not just a little overweight, but VERY obese, and a few trying to make their partners very obese. This is our new smoking.
• things which skew against those with less money:
exposure to more pollutants & toxins
inability to pay for medical treatments, drugs
lack of knowledge of new treatments
lack of access to new treatments
distrust of people who are smarter
[sep]
If you understand
• median (which IS what you described)
v.
• average/mean (which is NOT what you described)
you know that the question has a point.
If you need data, just remember income:
Nine homeless people make $0/yr.
One guy makes $1 million/yr.
The mean/average income is $100k/yr, but that's completely deceptive!
The median income is $0/yr.
The mode income is $0/yr
This shows that the mean is not always useful as a measure of central tendency.
Longevity also reveals culling of weaker immune systems, congenital problems, irresponsible/reckless behavior (like the ages where you die from accident trauma), addiction, vaccination status, etc. And that some are genetically predisposed to longevity.
And why would you think that
[quote]Given the world's population these are likely to be the same or very close.[/quote]
??
Your response shows you don't understand
• Actuarial statistics, which are really important here: from the old US standard mortality tables, for instance, a person (in America) is more likely to die in the first two years of life than on the third year and beyind, for many years.
• Factors which affect longevity:
- Attitudes toward healthy living.
• vaccinations--a whole set of people are more interested in personal freedom than life, resulting in loss of herd immunity for polio and (likely) other things. CoViD has reduced our lifespans, and people are choosing to die/pass on death, and it's to the pount that you can infer political beliefs from CoViD vaccination & death rates.
• substance abuse--drinking, smoking, vaping, etc.
• weight control--heck, we have people here who are very much into being not just a little overweight, but VERY obese, and a few trying to make their partners very obese. This is our new smoking.
• things which skew against those with less money:
exposure to more pollutants & toxins
inability to pay for medical treatments, drugs
lack of knowledge of new treatments
lack of access to new treatments
distrust of people who are smarter
[sep]
If you understand
• median (which IS what you described)
v.
• average/mean (which is NOT what you described)
you know that the question has a point.
If you need data, just remember income:
Nine homeless people make $0/yr.
One guy makes $1 million/yr.
The mean/average income is $100k/yr, but that's completely deceptive!
The median income is $0/yr.
The mode income is $0/yr
This shows that the mean is not always useful as a measure of central tendency.
Longevity also reveals culling of weaker immune systems, congenital problems, irresponsible/reckless behavior (like the ages where you die from accident trauma), addiction, vaccination status, etc. And that some are genetically predisposed to longevity.
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
@SomeMichGuy ....and as Disraeli once said: “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.” Government produced statistics both economically and of medical base are probably the worst. Bullshit In and Bullshit out. Average vs Median I don’t give a fuck.
SomeMichGuy · M
@KiwiBird So into which camp do your statements fall?
You claimed you knew the difference, but your original answer didn't reflect that. I guess Disraeli would categorize it as an attempt to lie about statistics.
Then you compounded it by pretending that it they really ought to be the same...based on nothing. What would that long-former British PM say about *that*?
smh
You claimed you knew the difference, but your original answer didn't reflect that. I guess Disraeli would categorize it as an attempt to lie about statistics.
Then you compounded it by pretending that it they really ought to be the same...based on nothing. What would that long-former British PM say about *that*?
smh
Mardrae · F
Well look at the USA as an example. We’ve got 5g Wi-Fi that is banned in several other countries, we’ve got fluoride in our water supply, all kinds of horrible chemicals put into our food, chemtrails, poverty, crime, wars, etc etc. Roundup in all California wines. Sure, there’s organic foods that people can eat to be healthier, but most people can’t afford to eat organic. So people are sicker.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Mardrae actually, if you really look at the data, it is our infant mortality rate and mortality in underprivileged that lowers our life expectancy. Prematurity rates are among the highest in the world. When you're u look at mortality rates above age 4-5 we did much better.
akindheart · 61-69, F
Gusman · 61-69, M
@akindheart You are still going, another 10 years of more maybe. Enjoy.🙂
Gusman · 61-69, M
@akindheart Yes! Positivity will get you there. 🙂
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Dad died of cancer at 70. Mom at 81 of a heart attack. She really was over weight though.
I figured my absolute best would be 80. And very likely cancer will be it. I do sort of take after my father in some things physically. Not height though. Dad was short.
I figured my absolute best would be 80. And very likely cancer will be it. I do sort of take after my father in some things physically. Not height though. Dad was short.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
Wiseacre · F
@GeistInTheMachine deaths of despair... interesting!
TheSirfurryanimalWales · 61-69, M
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
Gusman · 61-69, M
@JohnOinger Oh you silly man Johnny 😄
ElwoodBlues · M
@JohnOinger A long time ago I read that 90% of the scientists who ever lived are alive today. Sounds like going into the sciences is your best bet for immortality!!!
Wiseacre · F
Probably short telomeres that usually lead to early disease and death.
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MonaReeves86 · 36-40, F
Maybe you’re not the age you say you are maybe you’re younger
MonaReeves86 · 36-40, F
@Gusman from where