So many people dying before reaching "Average Life Expectancy"
How come I am still here?
Seems like I am entering the "At Risk" range - 60 to 70
Seems like I am entering the "At Risk" range - 60 to 70
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KiwiBird · 36-40, F
@SomeMichGuy Yes I understand how median and averages are calculated. Given the world's population these are likely to be the same or very close.
Edit: Actually you might have a point. I think SIDS would throw out my initial thoughts.
Edit: Actually you might have a point. I think SIDS would throw out my initial thoughts.
SomeMichGuy · M
@KiwiBird Thanks, but if you knew that, why say something other than the truth?
And why would you think that
[quote]Given the world's population these are likely to be the same or very close.[/quote]
??
Your response shows you don't understand
• Actuarial statistics, which are really important here: from the old US standard mortality tables, for instance, a person (in America) is more likely to die in the first two years of life than on the third year and beyind, for many years.
• Factors which affect longevity:
- Attitudes toward healthy living.
• vaccinations--a whole set of people are more interested in personal freedom than life, resulting in loss of herd immunity for polio and (likely) other things. CoViD has reduced our lifespans, and people are choosing to die/pass on death, and it's to the pount that you can infer political beliefs from CoViD vaccination & death rates.
• substance abuse--drinking, smoking, vaping, etc.
• weight control--heck, we have people here who are very much into being not just a little overweight, but VERY obese, and a few trying to make their partners very obese. This is our new smoking.
• things which skew against those with less money:
exposure to more pollutants & toxins
inability to pay for medical treatments, drugs
lack of knowledge of new treatments
lack of access to new treatments
distrust of people who are smarter
[sep]
If you understand
• median (which IS what you described)
v.
• average/mean (which is NOT what you described)
you know that the question has a point.
If you need data, just remember income:
Nine homeless people make $0/yr.
One guy makes $1 million/yr.
The mean/average income is $100k/yr, but that's completely deceptive!
The median income is $0/yr.
The mode income is $0/yr
This shows that the mean is not always useful as a measure of central tendency.
Longevity also reveals culling of weaker immune systems, congenital problems, irresponsible/reckless behavior (like the ages where you die from accident trauma), addiction, vaccination status, etc. And that some are genetically predisposed to longevity.
And why would you think that
[quote]Given the world's population these are likely to be the same or very close.[/quote]
??
Your response shows you don't understand
• Actuarial statistics, which are really important here: from the old US standard mortality tables, for instance, a person (in America) is more likely to die in the first two years of life than on the third year and beyind, for many years.
• Factors which affect longevity:
- Attitudes toward healthy living.
• vaccinations--a whole set of people are more interested in personal freedom than life, resulting in loss of herd immunity for polio and (likely) other things. CoViD has reduced our lifespans, and people are choosing to die/pass on death, and it's to the pount that you can infer political beliefs from CoViD vaccination & death rates.
• substance abuse--drinking, smoking, vaping, etc.
• weight control--heck, we have people here who are very much into being not just a little overweight, but VERY obese, and a few trying to make their partners very obese. This is our new smoking.
• things which skew against those with less money:
exposure to more pollutants & toxins
inability to pay for medical treatments, drugs
lack of knowledge of new treatments
lack of access to new treatments
distrust of people who are smarter
[sep]
If you understand
• median (which IS what you described)
v.
• average/mean (which is NOT what you described)
you know that the question has a point.
If you need data, just remember income:
Nine homeless people make $0/yr.
One guy makes $1 million/yr.
The mean/average income is $100k/yr, but that's completely deceptive!
The median income is $0/yr.
The mode income is $0/yr
This shows that the mean is not always useful as a measure of central tendency.
Longevity also reveals culling of weaker immune systems, congenital problems, irresponsible/reckless behavior (like the ages where you die from accident trauma), addiction, vaccination status, etc. And that some are genetically predisposed to longevity.
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
@SomeMichGuy ....and as Disraeli once said: “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.” Government produced statistics both economically and of medical base are probably the worst. Bullshit In and Bullshit out. Average vs Median I don’t give a fuck.
SomeMichGuy · M
@KiwiBird So into which camp do your statements fall?
You claimed you knew the difference, but your original answer didn't reflect that. I guess Disraeli would categorize it as an attempt to lie about statistics.
Then you compounded it by pretending that it they really ought to be the same...based on nothing. What would that long-former British PM say about *that*?
smh
You claimed you knew the difference, but your original answer didn't reflect that. I guess Disraeli would categorize it as an attempt to lie about statistics.
Then you compounded it by pretending that it they really ought to be the same...based on nothing. What would that long-former British PM say about *that*?
smh