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Pride Month

I both do and don't wanna go to Pride this year. It would be my first time really going.

There's just so much hate and transphobia going on recently, and the Pride event that I would go to is hours away from where I live. I feel really torn about it. Plus, my partner lives in a different state and won't be able to make it.

I feel like it would be cool to go, but I'm thinking of passing. Idk.
My take on "Pride"

I think it's a great thing for the younger generations who seek a sense of "Family/Community" as far as myself personally it's just not a function I feel a need for. I was brought up in a VERY gay- tolerant family. My dad was Bi-sexual, I had a gay brother so a gay "lifestyle" was the household majority.

My mom would sometimes ask my older sister..."Why can't you date nice boys like your brother does?" Mom adored the guys I dated, she would cook for them and often would encourage them to stay over- night.

When I turned 21,my dad took me to San Francisco to see my first Gay bars and "Drag" show at the legendary gay nightclub called "Finnochio's" that was so exciting. I got to see my first drag show, and the drag queens bought me cocktails the whole night through.

I cultivated and nurtured self- pride decades ago, I no longer seek acceptance I have accepted myself. I DO seek to empower younger gay men, I encourage our younger generations to be proud, to nurture and ensure our human rights to remain strong and intact.

Pride and self love are really important, young folks need mental and physical stasis to remain happy and feel loved. Overall, I think "Pride month" probably a good thing, enjoy it and have a great time!
DarkAngel24 · 26-30
@Grateful4you Thank you, and I just wanna say that I think it's really amazing that you got to grow up in such a supportive environment! I wasn't raised in a supportive environment, so Pride and stuff means a lot to me.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Well, it's up to you buy maybe you need ask yourself why you feel any need to go, whatever you mean by "really going" (your italics).

Slightly bisexual myself though that did not emerge until my mid-50s, I used to know as a pen-friend a young man who was not at all afraid of using the term "homosexual" about himself rather that the US slang "gay", and said he had no time for the "Pride" scene.

I asked him why.

He said he felt no need to attend anyway, but further was worried that these jamborees did more harm than good in trying to gain acceptance for non-heterosexual people.

I thought back to when the UK's mid-19C law banning homosexual activities between men was repealed in (I think) 1962. Repealing a law based on restrictive social prejudice does not remove the prejudice overnight; but slowly, understanding, tolerance, even acceptance began to reject those old prejudices. This was helped in the UK and some other nations by laws banning sexual, racial, religious, etc. prejudices against employment etc.

Yet now the prejudices seem to be returning. Why? Is, as my friend feared would happen, the recent rise in homophobia and nowadays also "transphobia" is at least encouraged, unintentionally and unwittingly by the "Pride" movement itself?

For it started among campaigns to be recognised as people of equal merit as any other people in society, but has found itself in a murky war of attrition between non-heterosexuals and their sympathisers against not only outright homophobic ignorance and antiquated prejudice. I fear too, non-heterosexuals being thought pleading some sort of special case, with views that must never be questioned. Not simply taken as fellow human beings.

It's that last that is becoming extremely dangerous, with all sorts of self-appointed but usually anonymous Guardians of The Cause, of any sexual orientation, censoring debates, manipulating what others say or write, even stooping to wreck careers.

It's no wonder why as you put it, so much hatred and phobia occurs. Equal acceptance, respect and treatment is not gained by trying to be something "special", because that looks like a call for its own form of superiority.

My friend and I were in contact years before all this blew up, but I think he could see what the "Gay Pride" campaigning might lead to, and it is.
SUPERVlXEN · F
@ArishMell
Sure, let's blame the LGBTQ+ people and their pride parades. They should know better, and just stay in the closet. Then the far right can attack the next group of people who they see marginalized and start attacking these instead. I'm sick and tired of the people that keep pointing fingers at those being under attack and blame them for being victims of hatred.

What would it take for these so called "Christians" to simply let the parades be what they are, parades, and before that marches as they've been since the begin of the 70's? What does it take away from their personal "Christianity", it's not like the parades are advocating everyone should become anti-straight?

If you don't like the parades, fine stay away from them. Just like people stay away from any other big public event they don't want, or find interesting.
DarkAngel24 · 26-30
@ArishMell I think it's a very weird assumption people make that by embracing what makes you different, especially when that thing has been opposed and oppressed, that you somehow view yourself as "special" or above others. Honestly, I think this type of thinking is projection.

Pride started as a protest and has turned into a parade of acceptance. Being quiet has literally never gotten any marginalized group any rights or respect. All it does is allow the opposition to get louder and louder, while the status-quo remains untouched.

Whether marginalized groups are protesting or parading we are told to instead just be quiet. This is not because being quiet works in OUR best interest, but instead because being quiet works in the best interest of the status-quo and those who would rather we not exist. It's silly to think that people who call for the eradication of queer people would suddenly stop and happily let us live if we just agreed to be quiet. It has never worked that way and it never will.

Learning that there was an LGBTQ+ movement with parades and acceptance gave me hope as a young queer person growing up in an non-accepting environment. Ultimately, these months and parades are about oppression. A Pride parade is about standing up to oppression by being proud of who you are, instead of being ashamed and hidden the way many queer people have had to be and still have to be. If there was no oppression, there'd be no parades. Instead of questioning queer people, I wish people put more effort into questioning the oppressive systems that led us here in the first place.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@DarkAngel24 Yes it is a projection, but whose? I don't altogether accept the notion fully, but it is one I fear rising from the growing cat-calling via [anti]social media and in universities merely for expressing opinions or worse, facts, not matching some dogma or other.

At least you and I live in countries that do not oppress people by law for being "queer" (that used to be a term of derision!), in the way Uganda has just announced. That is what should be opposed, but fancy parades in New York or Paris or London won't mean anything or make any difference to the Ugandan government.
Spectra · 26-30, F
@DarkAngel24 We’ll frankly it’s the world. No matter what time or place there will always be idiots. Ppl say that it’s worse lately but really it’s nothing yo compared to what ppl had to deal with before the 2000s. The hate & transphobia is the very reason the month is celebrated so that’s no excuse. I understand how your partner not being able to go is discouraging you tho but I say fuck it. Go out, celebrate your sexuality, have a good time
DarkAngel24 · 26-30
@Spectra You're right tbh.
Allelse · 36-40, M
People are getting all feral about it, but then again, if you went you'd be showing your support. But also who wants a bunch of fat, psycho rednecks screaming at you that you're going to hell.
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CestManan · 46-50, F
@Allelse
You know what else I hate, these NAZI crazies are always overweight guys with beards, I'm an overweight guy with a beard and they make me look bad!!!

Good guys and bad guys come in all sorts of appearances though.
Allelse · 36-40, M
@CestManan That's just lies from big appearance.
Selah ·
I went once. It was a promotion opportunity for my job. There were protestors but literally everyone ignored them and had fun lol if you go alone you'll make friends and enjoy the atmosphere.
smiler2012 · 56-60
{@darkangel24] 😞that is a great pity in a way particularly you are being influenced by the negative action of small minded bigots . 🤷‍♂️do not get me wrong i understand you are scared and that is no way too feel because people are bigoted and cannot accept people for what they are because they are different orientation to them and violence is the only way they can express there ignorance
DarkAngel24 · 26-30
@smiler2012 I'll probably go if I get the chance
CestManan · 46-50, F
Pride is happening soon here in my state. I will not be going. It has nothing to do with protesters or some jackazz in the name of God saying people are going to h3ll. My reasons -

Going downtown, trying to find parking, fighting traffic, paying too much to park.
Seeing a bunch of companies who are just virtue signaling.
Walking a mile afterwards to the post-parade event, standing in line for an hour, paying to go in and see MORE virtue signaling.

PLUS, within the event there is no smoking, no bringing outside food or drink except a bottle of water, purse must be clear, no lawn chairs nor canopies can be brought in,

So yeah, one would have to pay for the over-priced food and drink at the event. Of course bottles of (probably warm) water will be free.

AND, the vast majority of people at those events are straight young immature obnoxious females who feel the need to scream and squeal about everything.

And all this BULL is called "having a good time"? 🤨
SUPERVlXEN · F
This is what they want to achieve with their fear mongering, to keep us behind our doors, not to show ourselves. This way we don't exist and they can continue to pass bills and create an environment where we have to fear violence if we are recognized for who we are.
DarkAngel24 · 26-30
@SUPERVlXEN This is true. If I'm able to I'll probably go in the spirit of protest.
SUPERVlXEN · F
@DarkAngel24
I wish you a safe protest, tho I understand your reservations. It's suddenly become very real again, not taking granted that we are seen as equal members of the society. 🌈✊🏻
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
I loved it the few times I went when we were younger, but we are quite private people and these days we would just rather blend into the background. I am however looking forward to taking my daughter to an event when the time feels right.

We never encountered any protest or hostility at the parades we attended, thsnk goodness.
CultOfPersonality · 36-40, M
I went to pride once and loved it
HannahSky · F
Maybe all the more reason to go 🌈
DarkAngel24 · 26-30
@HannahSky That's doable. Having a safety plan absolutely sounds like a good idea with everything that's been going on recently.
HannahSky · F
@DarkAngel24 good luck and have fun
DarkAngel24 · 26-30
@HannahSky Thank you ~
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
Such a sad environment
Some people really are stupid
DarkAngel24 · 26-30
@Strictmichael75 Unfortunate but true.
laurieluvsit · 26-30, F
'Today's the day for firm decisions!

...or is it?' ...lol
ShaneMckay · 41-45, M
Just asking, but what is there to be PROUD about? Sex , ( and your sexual preferences), are SUPPOSED to be private!! Just what the hell are they bragging about? Private stuff???
DarkAngel24 · 26-30
@ShaneMckay heterosexuals don't tend to keep their preferences private
ShaneMckay · 41-45, M
@DarkAngel24 Sure they do! Ever hear of a heterosexual parade? Heterosexual Pride? Heterosexual flag? Week or month??? Get real here!
Spectra · 26-30, F
Where are you from?
DarkAngel24 · 26-30
@Spectra I live in Colorado, so it's not too bad here, but there's still plenty of idiots.

 
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