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Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians Pay Attention?


Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and treat them before they commit violence.

Each time a high-profile mass shooting happens in America, a grieving and incredulous nation scrambles for answers. Who was this criminal and how could he (usually) have committed such a horrendous and inhumane act? A few details emerge about the individual’s troubled life and then everyone moves on.

Three years ago, Jillian Peterson, an associate professor of criminology at Hamline University, and James Densley, a professor of criminal justice at Metro State University, decided to take a different approach. In their view, the failure to gain a more meaningful and evidence-based understanding of why mass shooters do what they do seemed a lost opportunity to stop the next one from happening. Funded by the National Institute of Justice, the research arm of the Department of Justice, their research constructed a database of every mass shooter since 1966 who shot and killed four or more people in a public place, and every shooting incident at schools, workplaces and places of worship since 1999.

Peterson and Densley also compiled detailed life histories on 180 shooters, speaking to their spouses, parents, siblings, childhood friends, work colleagues and teachers. As for the gunmen themselves, most don’t survive their carnage, but five who did talked to Peterson and Densely from prison, where they were serving life sentences. The researchers also found several people who planned a mass shooting but changed their mind.

Their findings, also published in the 2021 book, The Violence Project: How to Stop a Mass Shooting Epidemic, reveal striking commonalities among the perpetrators of mass shootings and suggest a data-backed, mental health-based approach could identify and address the next mass shooter before he pulls the trigger — if only politicians are willing to actually engage in finding and funding targeted solutions.

But, it triggers more people to talk about guns than actually resolving problems so,....
TexChik · F
The only agenda of the left is to disarm America while they are still in office , then do as they please .
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@TexChik didn’t Hunter lie on his gun application to buy a gun? Why wasn’t he charged with a crime for doing that?
@cherokeepatti He sure did. And it's a felony punishable by 10 years in prison. The secret service approached the gun retailer to hand over the paperwork to cover up the crime. Then his girlfriend takes the handgun from Hunter...she was afraid he'd hurt her or himself, and dumped the gun in the trash near a school. That gun is long gone now...on the streets somewhere...
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Addressing the mental health issue makes total sense. That's why the gov't will have none of it. It gets in the way of the real objective.

We've long seen that the gov't isn't interested in reducing gun violence. 90% of all firearm homicides occur in America's inner cities. We've known for decades that the social policies designed to keep inner city residents reliant on the gov't, and remain in perpetual poverty, leads to crimes, drug use, gangs...and gun violence. The gov't can't admit it, because it's all by design. It's been that way long before school shootings became too common. So...blame is placed on the tool

Mass shootings are obviously a mental health issue. They are incredibly emotional regardless of your feelings about gun control, and conveniently distract attention away from the far deadlier issue within the inner cities. Again, blame is placed on the tool.

Infringing upon or even revoking the rights of law abiding citizens to defend themselves will never deter the criminals or the criminally insane. Yet, disarming Americans is absolutely the objective of the cabal and the deep state. Just ask Beto the Burglar.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
Every year in America, 900+ children die from drowning. By comparison there have been 96 children murdered in schools shootings so far this year. By comparison, water is far more likely to take a child's life than a school shooter.

Every life is precious. But to blame the guns is like blaming the water for the drownings, and water is far-far more easy to get than guns.

We also don't demand that public pools be closed or covered up, we don't discourage boating and other water related activities. We instead talk about water safety and by and large there is little to no infringement by the federal government on our freedom to drink, bath, or swim in water.

If some Americans were intentionally drowning children we'd want to find out why, but unlikely that we would blame the water.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Budwick

Yes, the school shooters all seem to fit a profile; as do some of the mass shooters who didn't shoot school children, and some of those mass shooters are gang or drug related.

Some of those school shooters could have been prevented. The shooters in some cases were know risks, had expressed intent on killing, and had been reported to the police or FBI prior to their killing spree.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Heartlander I agree..
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To entertain any idea other then the guns fault.
Would be a admission of decades of stupid failed policies on mental health
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
they’ve also found out that constantly replaying a news story of a shooting will create more. Not just a shooting but other types of stories like a bombing or whatever. So the media is encouraging more of it and I believe they know they are doing it.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@cherokeepatti

I agree. Revenge is one way to even the score if you think the world is picking on you. Since so many disenfranchised young adults want to get their revenge by attacking random school children, there's good reason to ask what schools may be doing or not doing that turns some kids into murderers.

I've long thought that our desegregation process did a lot more than simply mix us together racially. They also took kids out of their neighborhoods and in doing so destroyed so many of our old neighborhoods. Meanwhile, schools became bigger and bigger, and that made it easy for kids to fall through the cracks. Add in special treatment for honor students and star students, and teachers banding together in national unions, and ... it's may have gotten us to where we are now.

Through the 70s we lived but a couple of blocks from a big city high school. Most of our neighbors connected with that school, some of whom had gone to school there years earlier. The school was integrated, but it was mostly a white neighborhood; so the federal courts forced the school board to start bussing kids in and out of the neighborhood to achieve a racial balance, not of the neighborhood but in the mind of the federal courts. Smart Black and White parents responded by sending their kids to private or parochial schools. Smart teachers likewise found more stability in private schools or public schools beyond the reach of the court.

Within a few years that school turned into a blackboard jungle and the neighborhood started to turn. There were reports of both the police and the fire department being called every day. In one of the media interviews with a fireman the firemen commented about being harassed once they responded to the fire alarm. When the reporter asked for more details about how the students had harassed the responding firemen the fireman corrected the reporter. It was the teachers who were harassing the firemen. The school was later closed. The idea was that building a new school building elsewhere would fix things. It didn't.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Heartlander I think it’s something else besides revenge. It very well could draw out these people who have been subjected to MKULTRA training and triggers them to act out.
black4white · 56-60, M
I am not one to ban guns... i am all about having my very own guns from pistols to semi auto shotguns and hunting rifles.....which i use all frequently from targets to skeet to hunting(of course)
MY problem is that assault rifles such as AK47 or M16 are made for one purpose and one purpose only and that is killing of people. I dont see the issues with banning THOSE types of weapons or make it crazy difficult to own those. change them to a class 3 to where it takes over a year to own ..who knows and at the same time try to reduce the number of them that are now on the streets legally with some type of buy back. The ability to get these weapons are far too easy mental health issues or not.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@black4white
you dont need assault rifles.

It's not the Bill Of Needs.
It's the Bill Of Rights.

Extra taxes and burdens are also infringement.
black4white · 56-60, M
@Budwick Extra taxes and burdens are NOT infringements otherwise everything is FREE....
Budwick · 70-79, M
@black4white What are 'NTt infringements '?
4meAndyou · F
A copy of that book should be required reading for every school Principal and guidance counselor, and the dysfunctional federal government should be funding the books and sending them out to every school and university.
Eternity · 26-30, M
Are you going to describe what exactly they found or are you going to keep us in suspense? Post a link maybe?
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Eternity · 26-30, M
@Budwick no but seriously you posted that someone found the answer, but didn't actually say what the answer they found was. That is pretty suck.
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rfatoday · 61-69, M
Thanks for the post. This is interesting. I'd be interested to see if there's a correlation with the proliferation of violence in TV/film and games. I'll look for the book. Always felt there is something to this because when I was young, things like mass-shootings were very rare if at all. Yet, access to firearms was easier.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
This a Conservative advocates for more government money to mental health and social services.

Great idea. 👍
theAlchemist · 56-60, M
Posting some of the findings of Peterson and Densley would have been nice. Some of us here have very little free time and Internet research can be time consuming.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@theAlchemist
Some of us here have very little free time and Internet research can be time consuming.

Thanks for your complaint. It has been duly filed.
theAlchemist · 56-60, M
@Budwick Yes ma'am. At least you're not being cussed out for your clickbait like others have done on this thread.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@theAlchemist
At least you're not being cussed out for your clickbait

It really is a magical day.
Changeisgonnacome · 61-69, F
You need the guns. You need the cars. America would change if the violence was curbed, it would never be American.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Changeisgonnacome Loose Change - you really got a bone about the guns, doncha?
How about resolving the problem?

But, it triggers more people to talk about guns than actually resolving problems so,....
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So by the assesment that "unstable" people commit mass shootings i guess 90% of the Similar Worlds user base would be capable of committing a mass shooting
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
All that is well and good, and merits further research, but we need a quick solution to prevent more senseless violence until such research can be thoroughly conducted. Can you think of another thing all the gunmen have in common? Something all the shooters share? Surely there is something connecting all of these shootings that we can use to prevent another whilst we explore how to revamp the mental health system in this country?
Budwick · 70-79, M
@CorvusBlackthorne Yopu are conflating and confusing yourself.

Banning guns is about the 2nd amendment, Cubby!
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@Budwick I am doing nothing of the sort, sir. The second amendment was written with the idea that the colonies needed a sort of militia, not unlike the revolutionary army. The United States has an extremely well organized militia referred to as the military. As a matter of fact, this militia is so well organized that it is divided into several smaller organizations.

Tell me, does the fact that mentally ill people in Canada are unable to carry out their plans to commit mass shootings give you food for thought? What about Australia? I haven't heard of a mass shooting lately in New South Wales. Why is that, one wonders?
Budwick · 70-79, M
@CorvusBlackthorne
Tell me, does the fact that mentally ill people in Canada are unable to carry out their plans to commit mass shootings give you food for thought? What about Australia? I haven't heard of a mass shooting lately in New South Wales.

If you are suggesting that we send mentally ill to Canada, Australia or New South Wales?

Cuz, there's a better chance of that than getting rid of the 2nd amendment.
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Budwick · 70-79, M
@Ferise1 No Clarice, nothing to see here.
Go back to sleep.
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