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Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians Pay Attention?


Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and treat them before they commit violence.

Each time a high-profile mass shooting happens in America, a grieving and incredulous nation scrambles for answers. Who was this criminal and how could he (usually) have committed such a horrendous and inhumane act? A few details emerge about the individual’s troubled life and then everyone moves on.

Three years ago, Jillian Peterson, an associate professor of criminology at Hamline University, and James Densley, a professor of criminal justice at Metro State University, decided to take a different approach. In their view, the failure to gain a more meaningful and evidence-based understanding of why mass shooters do what they do seemed a lost opportunity to stop the next one from happening. Funded by the National Institute of Justice, the research arm of the Department of Justice, their research constructed a database of every mass shooter since 1966 who shot and killed four or more people in a public place, and every shooting incident at schools, workplaces and places of worship since 1999.

Peterson and Densley also compiled detailed life histories on 180 shooters, speaking to their spouses, parents, siblings, childhood friends, work colleagues and teachers. As for the gunmen themselves, most don’t survive their carnage, but five who did talked to Peterson and Densely from prison, where they were serving life sentences. The researchers also found several people who planned a mass shooting but changed their mind.

Their findings, also published in the 2021 book, The Violence Project: How to Stop a Mass Shooting Epidemic, reveal striking commonalities among the perpetrators of mass shootings and suggest a data-backed, mental health-based approach could identify and address the next mass shooter before he pulls the trigger — if only politicians are willing to actually engage in finding and funding targeted solutions.

But, it triggers more people to talk about guns than actually resolving problems so,....
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Heartlander · 80-89, M
Every year in America, 900+ children die from drowning. By comparison there have been 96 children murdered in schools shootings so far this year. By comparison, water is far more likely to take a child's life than a school shooter.

Every life is precious. But to blame the guns is like blaming the water for the drownings, and water is far-far more easy to get than guns.

We also don't demand that public pools be closed or covered up, we don't discourage boating and other water related activities. We instead talk about water safety and by and large there is little to no infringement by the federal government on our freedom to drink, bath, or swim in water.

If some Americans were intentionally drowning children we'd want to find out why, but unlikely that we would blame the water.
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Budwick · 70-79, M
@Heartlander Heart - This post, unlike most others is not blaming guns.
It blames whack-a-doodles, mentally unstable people.
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Budwick · 70-79, M
@CopperCicada call it what ever you want - it makes sense to me.
@CopperCicada I think there is a lot of concern about how the mental health system could be abused in ways to infringe of 2A rights.

A few examples:
Red flag laws can easily be abused to circumvent both the 2nd and 5th Amendments. The way they are currently drafted, someone who doesn't like you can simply report you. Your property is seized, and your rights are infringed without due process. Guilty until proven innocent. Now you have an expensive uphill legal battle to get your rights restored.

Some have proposed all propsective gun buyers go through a psychological evaluation prior to purchase. Who conducts the evaluation and how do you ensure it's fair and consistent?

On some medical forms, they now ask whether or not you own firearms. That's none of the doctor's business. But we have doctors who now want to address firearm ownership as a public health issue.

Slippery slope.
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Heartlander · 80-89, M
@CopperCicada No arguments from me. How many people had contacted local officials, the police, the FBI about Nikolas Cruz?

Here's my advice: the next time you feel it necessary to follow through with that "see something - say something" suggestion, consider the likely that your report will find its way to some bureaucrat's waste basket, so send CC copies to the head of the FBI, the White House and your members of congress with a request that they acknowledge your report.

What got us here is that we have fewer and fewer neighborhoods where neighbors look after one another and do something about troublesome kids.

HRC's "It takes a village" was pure political crap. It does take a village and Washington DC is not a village.
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Heartlander · 80-89, M
@CopperCicada

That’s a lot of words to tell me to fuck myself.

Not so. I'm simply pointing out that attention to mental health issues is a part of caring for one another. And caring for one another requires a community bond, whether it's caring for children, the elderly, the mentally handicapped, our veterans, our mentally ill. And that includes keeping them safe from doing harm to others.

How many people brought attention to Nikolas Cruz and what a danger he was? God, someone called the FBI 6 weeks before Cruz went on his murder spree.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Budwick

Yes, the school shooters all seem to fit a profile; as do some of the mass shooters who didn't shoot school children, and some of those mass shooters are gang or drug related.

Some of those school shooters could have been prevented. The shooters in some cases were know risks, had expressed intent on killing, and had been reported to the police or FBI prior to their killing spree.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Heartlander I agree..
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