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Supreme Court Loses Their Mind!

Do they really think they can fine homeless people? They’re homeless!! So the buck or 2 I give them will now go back to the government? I’d rather see it go on drugs than there. And this is from people that want less government. Go figure!!
HumanEarth · 56-60, F
Do you remember when I was talking about this during winter?

Is It Legal to Live In The Wilderness?
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@pdockal that is most of homeless people.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Handfull1

Do you have anything to do with the homeless?
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@pdockal I actually have. It’s been a passion of mine since I worked in the inner city. I’m not as involved as I would like but have definitely been involved. And I talk to them. If I was younger, I’d write a book. They all have a story to tell.
Homelessness and begging (panhandling) are illegal here, too.

No, it hasn't done anything to solve the homeless crisis. There's still record numbers of men, women and children homeless. The only difference is that now the government is after their tents and hammocks because "homelessness is a lifestyle choice" (Suella Bravaman).

Stop choosing to be homeless and start choosing to be housed, damn it!!!
@Handfull1 I can't see how anyone would choose to sleep on the streets - especially not in winter.

The levels of disrespect that they live with are something else. They don't need to be pissed on or have filthy mop water chucked over them.

They're just human, they make mistakes as much as everyone else and they might get stuck in the cycle of addiction and homelessness. We're all just one injury away from becoming addicts of a different kind ourselves.
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@HootyTheNightOwl I agree. Was being sarcastic although there are a small minority that prefer it over any social interaction. It’s a rare few and will seek shelter in the winter. It’s sad how society treats many in these situations.
@Handfull1 I'm scared...

Ever since we unleashed universal credit onto the UK, more people are choosing to to anything that they can to avoid having to claim that... including homelessness.

I would prefer to be picked up by the police unable to move in some shop doorway before I am forced to try to do work that I cannot safely manage due to my health.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
they are out of control!
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@samueltyler2 exactly. How can people not see this?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Handfull1 I fault our education system, we haven't taught civics and world history for years!
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@samueltyler2 maybe for the younger people, that’s true. Most I know who are for Trump are older. They should remember.
This is what happens when Republicans are able to nominate judges. Vote Biden.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@BohemianBoo people forget just how important elections are. Hillary tried to warn everyone in 2016!
@samueltyler2 And as bad as Hillary is, she wouldn't have put Fascists on the SCOTUS.
How else do you make people pay to exist? Carrots and sticks and jail.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
Imagine a scenario in which several hundred homeless people get together and doused themselves with gasoline and set themselves on fire. And then it happened again and again across the country.

I wonder how the governments would react?
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@Diotrephes I would hope that never happens but to be honest, I think some wouldn’t care. The ones that ruled for this would point the finger elsewhere.
JSul3 · 70-79
To you fine Christians out there, I ask: What would Jesus do?
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@JSul3 at times I’m not even sure people want to ask that anymore. So many social issues come back to that same philosophy, even if not religious.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@JSul3
To you fine Christians out there, I ask: What would Jesus do?

Jesus would simply tell one of his rich buddies that he was going to stay with him for a while.
Thatsright · 61-69, M
Let them camp in your yard?
JSul3 · 70-79
@Thatsright If that's what it takes until I can help them find better living quarters.

That is what Christ would want to be done.
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@Thatsright if they behaved I would let them camp on the empty lot that we own next to us. Of course the neighbors wouldn’t be happy.
@JSul3 Send your address and I promise to supply you as many as you'd like.
tenente · 100+, M
for real? link?
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@tenente https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/06/28/supreme-court-decision-bans-homeless-encampments/73677194007/
tenente · 100+, M
@Handfull1 ok thank you.

Ann Oliva, CEO of the National Alliance to End Homelessness, said the decision gives “free reign to local officials who prefer pointless and expensive arrests and imprisonment, rather than real solutions.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/06/28/supreme-court-decision-bans-homeless-encampments/73677194007/

i agree that levying fines and jail on homeless is utterly pointless and a waste of law enforcement time and resources

→bans on camping in public spaces does not violate the Eighth Amendment’s prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-175_19m2.pdf

i also, agree with this decision: bans on camping in public spaces isn't a breach of civil rights and freedoms in our constitution

the National Alliance to End Homelessness has a very good point, they just need a better argument that the courts will support.

tbh, i think the National Alliance to End Homelessness got bad council and need better attorneys
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