It sounded insane, so I assumed the summary was taken out of context. I found the original text of the bill.

It describes illegal or street camping and says that a homeowner can use force to defend themselves [b][i]against aggressive campers[/i][/b]. It DOES NOT say that you can go into your backyard, find a homeless person sleeping under a tree and shoot them. You can ask them to leave and if they become aggressive and threaten you, you can use reasonable force to protect yourself.

I don't know what the legal situation was before that this law is attempting to clarify, but perhaps the problem was that if someone camped out on your property you couldn't make them leave. I'd hope that the law isn't encouraging people to confront randoms on their property at the point of a gun.

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"(c) The commission of unlawful camping in violation of Section 17 of this Act,4
when the offense is occurring on property owned or leased by the defendant,5
the individual engaged in unlawful camping has been told to cease, and the6
individual committing the offense has used force or threatened to use force7
against the defendant.8
(2) The use of deadly physical force by a defendant upon another person is justifiable9
under subsection (1) of this section only when the defendant believes that the10
person against whom such force is used is:11
(a) Attempting to dispossess him or her of his or her dwelling otherwise than12
under a claim of right to its possession; or13
(b) Committing or attempting to commit a burglary, robbery, or other felony14
involving the use of force, or under those circumstances permitted pursuant to15
KRS 503.055, of such dwelling; or16
(c) Committing or attempting to commit arson of a dwelling or other building in17
his or her possession.18"

It is obvious from the comments here that many people have experienced acutely hard times. It is to their merit that they have overcome their past issues. However, if the proposed law had been in force at the times of their travails, they may not have been here to pass on their experiences. The proposed law would seem to legalise murder, with no risk of legal backlash. The US would seem to be slowly slipping into a state of anarchy if politicians can propose and endorse laws such as this. Ultimately, it would seem, survival will be determined by who has the fastest draw or the biggest gun.

Well... that's one way to eradicate homelessness.

The thing is that the homeless already have next to no rights as it is. What's the difference between a homeless person sitting on the pavement outside the bus station and me being in crisis sitting on the pavement outside the bus station??? I don't have a sleeping bag with me and I have an address to give the cops.

Instead of killing homeless people, why not just give them a legalised place to camp - then they won't be needing to trespass in order to find somewhere safer to pitch up camp at night. As it stands, we treat the terrorist brides and children of Al Qaeda better than we treat the homeless. Give them a safe, tented compound with sanitation, fresh water and food rations funded by United Nations - and I think the homeless would feel like all their Christmases had come at once.

It seems clear to me that anybody who favors such a law cannot be trusted with it.

im pretty sure in at least one state people can kill any trespasser without legal offense.I think that would make more sense as a law as opposed to targeting the homeless.

Good law to deter trespassing. Protect yourself from squatters too.

IMO, this is a complex issue but is this the path that the country should venture down? Wouldn't it be a denial of everything that American society supposedly values and believes in?

@SW-User[quote] It would be so easy to house everybody. The ratio of empty houses to homeless people is seven to one.[/quote]
Say you are homeless in Los Angeles but that you could get a "free" house if you moved to Jackson, Mississippi. Would you do it?

There's more to it than just having a roof over your head. It has to be where the person wants it to be and then there's the problem of utlities, furniture, transportation, insurance, etc.

I've never been homeless but I regard it more as a personal problem that has to be solved by the affected individual than as society as a whole. Do you think that the homeless should become wards of the State (like slaves) in order to make a living?

Nothing wrong with protecting yourself; I feel like criminals of all kinds are coddled in this country. But, there are certain issues I would have:
--If people are constantly trespassing, increase the penalty and let them stand trial for it. That's what the judicial system is for. I think they forgot that part??
--The mentally ill don't need prosecution; they need help, which they will not get under any circumstances.
--It's bad enough that justice is meted out by the courts, now they want to put it in the hands of the public? Am I missing something here?

I feel for both the homeless AND people whose property values and personal safety are affected by crises such as these.

This law would turn the border into a 12 month open hunting season on people. No bag limit.

Deadly force must be justified

If killing is going to be completely legal then it is wrong to deprive any American citizen of gun rights for any reason whatsoever.

The Repubs want to see rivers of illegal aliens' blood flowing right now.

[b][c=BF0000]Arizona GOP advances bill legalizing killing undocumented migrants on suspicion of trespassing[/c][/b]
22 hours ago
"Arizona Republicans are advancing a bill that would allow people to legally kill someone accused of attempting to trespass or actively trespassing on their property.

The big picture: The legislation, which is expected to be vetoed if it reaches the state's Democratic governor, would legalize the murder of undocumented immigrants, who often have to cross ranches that sit on the state's border with Mexico."
https://www.axios.com/2024/02/27/arizona-gop-bill-rancher-migrant-kill

I knew of a secks worker in a tough part of the urban jungle. Homeless drug addict guy stabbed her in the lung heart and kidney.

He felt he had a right to kill her because she objected to him wanting to take over the (warm) spot she did business from.

She lived because it was chilly enough she didn't immediately bleed out. She should have had a weapon of her own because she had a good 5 seconds awareness he was coming at her.

At least she provides a net positive to society. The drug addict just goes around killing and robbing people. He got away but if she woulda got him right like she might now, the world would be a better place. Next time she'll shoot and I'm okay with that.

Laws that don't even keep the ground you stand on safe are kinda useless I think.

So if things get too hard just eliminate the problem. No more visible homelessness or visible mental issues, a safer society.

Next the unemployed then . . . who?

If all a person has to do is believe that someone is doing a prohibited act and then he can kill the person without any repercussions; then anyone can kill any politician they want without any repercussions.

If they're a threat. No one should be on your property. It's private.

Of course not. Let's admit we should house everyone if we do not expect this kind of thing, though. Human rights and government responsibilities begin with things like housing and education.
But killing is so sexy for the murkans, we expect you to be sighting in your guns using tents. Hope you hit a middle class pregnant professional just camping.

I approve of any law giving power to people. By "people," I mean those who aren't judges, police officers, lawyers, and so on.

The truth is that such laws are rare. In every case, there must be something for the authorities to gain.

In Russia, a man was released after serving only six months in prison for killing his friend for being a pedophile. Where I currently live, he would be called unreasonable, and kept in prison for a very long time. Is the U.S. going that way too?

In as few words as possible: This is murder, but then again, it's the MAGA group.

Turn homesteader food grower into a homeless people?

Make a person that doesn't know how to provide for a nations food supply into a landed pot grower?

That's how 50 million people in China and 50 million people in Russia starved in the 20th century.

Now you want that in the USA?

I got no chickens in that scrap as for me I'll just keep my ammo dry and my smokehouse full.

Would these proponents also be "Pro-Life"?

I live in Oklahoma you can’t just shoot who you want

easy solution to this and that is stay the hell out of others property. It aint hard to do

So much for any punishment for shooting an unarmed person.....govt approved legalized murder.

Have we, as a 'civilized society' truly regressed to this? Evidently.

You need more meds

Just home.ess democrats

one step closer to the purge 🙄

I would shoot every cop that set foot on doorstep and use this law as a defense.

Hmmm, this sounds familiar 🤔
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