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Do you approve of this proposed law?

The Kentucky Repubs want to pass a law that will authorize people to legally kill homeless people who set foot on their property.

[b][c=BF0000]Republicans Push To Legalize ‘Property Owners’ Killing Homeless People in Kentucky
In Kentucky, politicians are preparing to vote on a law that would authorize the use of force against unhoused people who are found to be camping on private property.[/c][/b]

"Republican politicians in Kentucky are rallying behind a new bill that would authorize the use of force—and potentially deadly force—against unhoused people who are found to be camping on private property. The bill would also criminalize unsanctioned homeless encampments and restrict cities and towns from preempting state laws.

The bill, known as the “Safer Kentucky Act,” or HB5, would target homelessness, drug possession and mental illness by drastically increasing criminal penalties for a range of offenses. Introduced last week by Republican state representative Jared Bauman, it already has 52 sponsors in Kentucky’s House of Representatives. A vote is scheduled for this week."

"Advocates are most alarmed by one aspect of the “Safer Kentucky Act” in particular: an anti-homeless provision that would authorize violence by property owners on people camping on their property. [c=BF0000]The bill says the use of force is “justifiable” if a defendant believes that criminal trespass, robbery or “unlawful camping” is occurring on their property. [/c]

In addition, it says that “deadly physical force” is justifiable if a defendant believes that someone is trying to “dispossess” them of their property or is attempting a robbery or committing arson, language that could also have ramifications for tenants overstaying their lease."
https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg54mg/republicans-push-to-legalize-property-owners-killing-homeless-people-in-kentucky

Should this become a law in every State or should the Repubs be voted out of office forever?

Notice that all a person has to do is "believe" that someone is doing a prohibited act and then he can kill the person without any reprecussions. Of course the Slave Patrol approves of that and even says that it doesn't go far enough.
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Penny · 46-50, F
im pretty sure in at least one state people can kill any trespasser without legal offense.I think that would make more sense as a law as opposed to targeting the homeless.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Penny[quote] im pretty sure in at least one state people can kill any trespasser without legal offense.I think that would make more sense as a law as opposed to targeting the homeless.[/quote]

So, you have an emergency and come knocking on my door for help. I grab my gun and shoot you dead because I "believe" that you are trying to rob me. Will you be OK with that outcome?
Penny · 46-50, F
@Diotrephes the law is the law
BLP11520 · 61-69, M
@Penny targeting in people group is immoral
Penny · 46-50, F
@BLP11520 i dont think giving the public the power of deadly force to protect themselves or their property is immoral
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Penny [quote]the law is the law[/quote]

So, you approve of the Nazis and Jim Crow laws and disregard the American creed.
Penny · 46-50, F
@Diotrephes i dont know where you got that from that
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Penny [quote] i dont think giving the public the power of deadly force is immoral[/quote]

You sound like you would have loved attending lynchings.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Penny [quote] i dont know where you got that from that[/quote]

I got that from your comment "the law is the law."
Penny · 46-50, F
@Diotrephes i edited to include in the interest of protection.
Penny · 46-50, F
@Diotrephes well youre sadly not making any sense
BLP11520 · 61-69, M
@Penny what is wrong with people?
Penny · 46-50, F
@BLP11520 people trespassing onto your property?
BLP11520 · 61-69, M
@Penny no, just how cold people have become
BLP11520 · 61-69, M
I have a safe neighborhood tucked into a nice locale
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Penny [quote]i edited to include in the interest of protection.
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Years ago I was burglarized four times. It really pissed me off. But today if someone wants anything I have all he would have to do is simply ask for it and I would give it to him without a second thought. I live in a nice neighborhood and we don't have the homeless problem that other areas have. I can understand why people get aggravated about the homeless situation and there is no easy answer to it. That is something I have never experienced but if I was to ever be in such a situation I would simply commit suicide.

As it says in Sirach 40:28 (CEB) = "My child, don’t live the life of a beggar; it’s better to die than to beg."
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Vin53 · M
@Penny

A young girl pulled into a driveway at the end of a dead end to simply turn around and was shot and killed in her car, simply for making a u-turn. Did she deserve to die?
Penny · 46-50, F
@Vin53 assuming this is hypothetical. if that was the law and it was your driveway would you have shot her?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Penny [quote]assuming this is hypothetical. if that was the law and it was your driveway would you have shot her?[/quote]

This was a real event =

[b][c=BF0000]Friends of Kaylin Gillis, woman shot after turning into wrong driveway, testify in murder trial: "People were screaming"[/c][/b]
"Gillis' death drew attention far beyond the rural town in upstate New York. The killing happened just days after the shooting of 16-year-old Ralph Yarl in Kansas City. Yarl, who is Black, was wounded by an 84-year-old white man after he went to the wrong door while trying to pick up his brother."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kaylin-gillis-wrong-driveway-shooting-murder-trial-testimony/#:~:text=The%20boyfriend%20of%20a%2020,over%20in%20the%20passenger%20seat.

The proposed Kentucky law would normalize such incidents.
Penny · 46-50, F
@Diotrephes well. Though your statement and article differ. Id still side with the law. Not saying its right but id still uphold the law.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Penny[quote] well. Though your statement and article differ. Id still side with the law. Not saying its right but id still uphold the law.[/quote]

But by upholding that particular law, won't you be violating the State and Federal constitutions?
https://ballotpedia.org/Bill_of_Rights,_Kentucky_Constitution
Penny · 46-50, F
@Diotrephes im not reading that lol
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Penny im not reading that lol @Penny

Well it's just a short civics lesson with the basic idea that if a person is alleged to have committed a crime the person has the right to a courtroom trial where his guilt and punishment can be determined, rather than be lynched by a mob. The proposed Kentucky law seems to be allowing "lynchings" and not following constitutional law.
Penny · 46-50, F
@Diotrephes shooting a trespasser is not the same as a lynching. if trespassing is the crime you dont need proof. youhave proof if they are on your property already
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Penny [quote]shooting a trespasser is not the same as a lynching. if trespassing is the crime you dont need proof. youhave proof if they are on your property already[/quote]

Sure it's the same because in both instances, the actor takes the law into his own hands and deprives the victim of his human and civil rights.