Why do you insist on Americanism when the English language has rules?

God wait until she discovers dialects exist.

Spanish in Latin America is somewhat different from the Spanish in Spain.
French in Canada is somewhat different from the French in France.
And English in the United States is somewhat different from the English in England.

For that matter, the English in 21st century England is somewhat different from the English in 17th century England. One could ask, "why do people in England today 'insist' on modernisms?"

I would say that nobody is "insisting" on anything. Language naturally changes -- with time and with distance.

English has grammar, syntax, spelling . . but there is no equivalent of the French Academy to maintain rigid and uniform standards. If there were, I am quite sure that English would not have become the lingua franca of the world.

WTF are you talking about LOL

Die Sprache ändert sich ständig. Was heute umgangssprachlich ist, wird morgen "offiziell". Die Regeln sind unwichtig, wichtig ist nur, dass wir einander verstehen können. Außerdem, ist die erste Sprache von SW Deutsch.

They like butchering English and shoving in “izations” a lot.

They killed a colourful language lol.

I am surprised to have stumped the OP with my suggestion. Let me flesh it out a bit. The question was, "Why do you insist on Americanism when the English language has rules?" Two misconceptions spoil the question by suggesting...

1. ...that English should be used because it has rules. But that's not a valid point, as American English has a complete set of rules as well.

2. ..,.that Americans [i]insist[/i]. On the contrary, we [i]don't[/i] insist you use our rules--"you", meaning other English speakers, including our own citizens who are of different dialects. When we visit another country, we don't lay down language rules. When foreigners visit here, ditto. In fact, we don't even "insist" it upon our own selves; we use the language we grew up with and make the best of it when face-to-face with differences. We have not had the advantage that is yours--to hear daily your Received Pronunciation. American English evolved over centuries from quite a few non-English languages, as numerous as the English-understanding countries you list. No one is now alive to have tracked its steps. You can surely cite counter-examples to what I've written, but by and large, we speak the language we, the living, were given. Not guilty, your honor.


An aside, helpful or not: I've spent considerable time in England, as well as in Canada, Australia and New Zealand, and I must say, those folks don't sound very much like you guys anymore. At a Brauhaus in Munich in the 80s, someone at a nearby table turned to us: "Excuse me, but we've decided you're Canadians." "Americans," we replied, "but why did you guess Canadians?" "Because you aren't loud." We laughed, grimacing secretly as my wife and I both wished that one implied premise weren't so spot on.

Other countries are responsible for themselves. But when we broke free of British rule in a little thing called the Revolutionary War, we broke free of British rules at the same time. We became an independent country. Capable of determination.

Because I'm American. And the rules of any living language change and adapt to changing situations and societal developments -- well, maybe not the French, but in most places. ;)

The evolution of New Zealand English might surprise you. Aotearoa New Zealand has three official languages. Te Reo Māori, English and New Zealand Sign Language. While English is the most common it is becoming more and more interspersed with Māori words in everyday usage.

English effectively 'belongs' to everyone who uses it. The English - or should I say the British - themselves have a version of it (distinguished by spellings formalised by Johnson) and so does the US (who use Webster's spellings, which were formalised rather later). On top of this there are, around the world, lots of different versions and sub-versions of it. This happens to other languages too, which have produced various 'pidgins' and 'creoles' some of which have enough distingishing features to become languages in their own right.

There is an Americanism that I'm quite fond of, and that is: 'It's not that big [i]of [/i]a deal!'

But each of those countries and territories speak English with their own words, idioms, and slang terms, just like American English...

English has always been a [i]port manue[/i] language... And I'm sure I've spelt that wrong

American English has rules. Can you state your initial question differently?

We’re not [b]English[/b] here. The United States is made up of people descended from just about every nationality on the planet [b]plus[/b] indigenous people, and what we speak incorporates words and terms from their languages as well. It’s really only a dialect of English, and not supposed to be the same.

Because I'm not from England??

I should point out to you Smidke, that "English" is not the language of England as your post states to the contrary.

English was actually a West Germanic language in the Indo-European language family, which stretches from the east Atlantic coast to as far as India.

The namesake of the English language is the language of the Angles peoples and the Saxon peoples, both of whom were ancient Germanic peoples who lived in and around north-west Germany near Denmark.

The part of Germany where they lived was therefore called the Angles region and the Saxon region, both of which formed the northern quadrant of west Germany.

The English language was then brought to the yet un-settled Island of Britain during the mid-5th to 7th Century AD by Anglo-Saxon migrants from west Germany who ventured west as explorers and then settled in what's now known as the UK.

The word "England", hence the word "English" originated from the old English word "Engla-Land" which literally means "the land of the Angles" where "Englisc" was spoken. "Englisc" then became written as "English".

The reason the English language arrived on the shores of the USA is because the people who first migrated to North America were fleeing the King of England and therefore already spoke English as their first language .

Along with those who were fleeing England were migrants from Holland, Denmark and Germany who also spoke English but only as a second language and who used the same dialect of English as those who were fleeing the King of England. This is because a common dialect of English was common throughout northern Europe to as far as India.

English therefore, is not the language of England, but in fact is the ancient language of north-west Germany which then became a mandatory second language that is still taught as such in schools today all throughout northern Europe, including all Scandinavian countries.

The difference in the way that the English language of ancient Germany is spoken in the USA compared to anywhere else in the world, came about as an intentional mocking that was directed at the King of England as those newly arrived migrants from England to the new land they called 'America', formed their independence from England.

That is why 'Independence Day' is still celebrated in the USA on the 4th of July each year to commemorate the USA's separation from England and it's total independence from the dictates of King of England during the 1700's.

The English language is therefore Germany's ancient language, not England's.

@MethDozer, you have been repeatedly displaying the classic signs of a Patriarch Misogynist throughout this entire thread, in addition to any other thread on this website that I have been participating in.

Anytime you have the opportunity, you unabashedly project the inner hatred you feel toward all women directly into your replies to any of my posts as if you were a venomous snake seeking revenge on my gender sake, only because you know that I am stronger than you are and you cannot tolerate strong, intelligent women who don't hesitate to put your back up against the wall whenever the need arises.

Strong, intelligent women are beyond your scope of comprehension MethDozer which is why you hate each and every female on this website and why you don't hesitate to trash this thread which was started by @Smidke, whom of course you have no respect for.

In your feeble attempt to show your ego to be more powerful than mere women, you always attempt to HIJACK any thread in question and at any cost so that you can force the inner hatred you have always harbored toward women onto those whom you become confrontational with as you attempt to change the theme of every post you interfere with by hijacking it to serve your own agenda, which I've realized turns out to be your primary modus operandi for even being here on this website.

What we on SW are now dealing with are unaddressed psychiatric issues that you've had all your life MethDozer and now you use SW as your dumping ground where you project those feelings of inner hatred toward women away from yourself, as if somehow shedding the guilt you feel for your inadequacy as an American male.

You need psychiatric help MethDozer and what you need to do more than anything is stop violating the Terms of Service of this website every time you login here.