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KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@silkydrawers In that case you must be a true female.
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Being one who was born Scandinavian blonde, I can assure the world that there is no such thing as gender-neutral when it comes to the spelling of blonde or blond.
You're either a blond Ken doll or you're a blonde Barbie doll and you're nothing in-between, no matter how 'woke' you claim to be.
You're either a blond Ken doll or you're a blonde Barbie doll and you're nothing in-between, no matter how 'woke' you claim to be.
KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@Zeuro I've never thought about pluralising it when it's one of each gender.
Zeuro · 26-30, F
@KarenisKenziesmum okay, well I’ve presented an opportunity for you to think about it, and now that you have, you know that plural is Blonds
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HumanEarth · F
My brother is a natural blonde. Am I missing something here
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KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@silkydrawers Which gender do you identify with?
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MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
Oops
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@KarenisKenziesmum booooo
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@KarenisKenziesmum im a big ol man
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Zeuro · 26-30, F
Because he probably wasn’t aware that blonde is feminine and blond is masculine/neutral. Most english words are simply gender neutral, it’s mainly French borrowings that that do that whole fiancé vs fiancée thing. And of course not everyone knows French
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KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@Zeuro Please don't use obscenities on my posts, thank you very much.
People start learning French in school at the age of 11 and do it up to age 13, or 16 if they choose it as an option (which I did). Our French teacher really was French and she liked us to address her as Mademoiselle Tessier.
People start learning French in school at the age of 11 and do it up to age 13, or 16 if they choose it as an option (which I did). Our French teacher really was French and she liked us to address her as Mademoiselle Tessier.
NOS4R2 · 41-45
Maybe the same reason we dont spell program like 'programme' anymore: language transmogrifies with time and the amalgamation of cultures. Its not static
NOS4R2 · 41-45
@KarenisKenziesmum Perhaps. But then i suppose i could argue what has french grammar got to do within English words?
Or that it comes from latin and there was originally no "e" on the end of the word
Its a global world of communication now. Hence language is varied and has cultural nuances depending upon who uses it, and where you are. As long as ideas accurately get communicated, subtle colloquial nuances become less relevant.
If you were using french or some other gendered language, then yes, it would matter. But there are many languages that arent gendered, and dont see this subtlety as an issue.
Or that it comes from latin and there was originally no "e" on the end of the word
Its a global world of communication now. Hence language is varied and has cultural nuances depending upon who uses it, and where you are. As long as ideas accurately get communicated, subtle colloquial nuances become less relevant.
If you were using french or some other gendered language, then yes, it would matter. But there are many languages that arent gendered, and dont see this subtlety as an issue.
KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@NOS4R2 If it's a French word to begin with then it conforms to French grammar. It doesn't get any simpler. There is no need to try to complicate things.
NOS4R2 · 41-45
@KarenisKenziesmum language IS complicated whether you accept it or not.
And it evolves. Its ever changing.
I underatand you adhere to the grammar rules you were taught, and that grammar is important esp punctuation, for comprehension.
But different cultures assimilate words and apply their own rules to make them their own, and thus grammar rules change depending upon context.
This is a world wide platform, thus there are world wide usages of language here.
Whether there is an 'e' at the end of blond, or not, doesn't change its implied meaning.
And THATS where languge counts.
As to its origin, i think its Germanic. So the word itself has evolved in many directions since then, not only french. In other languages it is used to describe albino or fair people with blue eyes, a type of fabric, and recently a type of beer.
Which interestingly is gendered feminine in france but neuter in german. Which then begs the question: is light beer 'blond' or 'blonde'? :D
And it evolves. Its ever changing.
I underatand you adhere to the grammar rules you were taught, and that grammar is important esp punctuation, for comprehension.
But different cultures assimilate words and apply their own rules to make them their own, and thus grammar rules change depending upon context.
This is a world wide platform, thus there are world wide usages of language here.
Whether there is an 'e' at the end of blond, or not, doesn't change its implied meaning.
And THATS where languge counts.
As to its origin, i think its Germanic. So the word itself has evolved in many directions since then, not only french. In other languages it is used to describe albino or fair people with blue eyes, a type of fabric, and recently a type of beer.
Which interestingly is gendered feminine in france but neuter in german. Which then begs the question: is light beer 'blond' or 'blonde'? :D
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
I never heard that before. I thought the hair color was blonde regardless of sex.
KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@samueltyler2 In that case, what did you think "blond" (minus the "e") meant?
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WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
Clearly you are that Karen.
KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@WintaTheAngle You don't even know the backstory behind my screen name and avatar.
WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
@KarenisKenziesmum I don’t need to. Only how you interact with people here.
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YoMomma ·
Men women and children can all be blond so idk why you think otherwise.. 😏
KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@YoMomma MEN are BLOND. NO "E" ON THE END. WOMEN are BLONDE. "E" ON THE END. These words are NOT gender-neutral and they are NOT interchangeable. I first learned that when I was 11, the usual age we start to learn French in school. Your answer is totally invalid.
YoMomma ·
@KarenisKenziesmum we aren't French that’s why your gender related language rules don't apply here
KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@YoMomma I'm English myself, although we had a French teacher in school who really was French. They are not "my" gender related language rules, they simply exist and they apply everywhere.
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KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@Muthafukajones Blonde is the femiine spelling, whether it is French, English or whatever. Blond is the masculine spelling. There is no getting away from it.
Muthafukajones · 46-50, M
@KarenisKenziesmum yes I I was mistaken. I looked that up. I will delete my erroneous comment. I will say that when borrowed words are used in other languages the usage is sometimes not correctly transferred. For example many people refer to a their engaged as their fiancée when in fact this refers to the female and the male is actually the fiancé pronounced fee on ss.
KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@Muthafukajones Both versions are pronounced the same as the feminine fiancée, because of the e acute (é). Not only did I learn French in school, but my French teacher actually was French and she liked to be addressed as Mademoiselle Tessier. Who could teach correct French grammar better than a French teacher who was born and bred in France?
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KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@seaglass Well, 18 then. How many GCSEs (or whatever the American equivalent of that is) do you take? We usually take eight here.
seaglass · F
@KarenisKenziesmum It's state-by-state here. In my state, you need 24 credits to graduate high school.
KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@seaglass What does that mean? What are credits, and how do you obtain them?
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
No, boys and men are blond, but only the French care if you add an "e".
KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@Roundandroundwego Obviously not only the French care. I care just as much as they do and I am English. Maybe it's because the French teacher in my old school really was French. Her name was Marie Tessier and she liked us to address her as Mademoiselle Tessier. Who would know more about French than a French teacher who really is French?
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KarenisKenziesmum · 51-55, F
@NudasPriest Are you trolling me?
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