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elVato · 46-50, M
cause they're slowly realizing the koran is as big or a bigger piece of garbage as the bible?
LegendofPeza · 56-60, M
Because they are learning to think for themselves ?
Booyeah · 41-45, M
Progress?
TheWombRaider · 26-30, M
progress in evolution
Many of them can distinguish between morality and religion. Maybe they're able to meet more non-Muslims/ atheists and realize they're not that bad.I guess they can't help sensing there's something fake in the teaching they got.
UnhatchedEgg · 31-35, F
I agree with all of it. Interacting with atheists would enormously help but only when it is done with an open mind, someone who is willing to listen and change. I also bet many people are sensing something is wrong with what they believe in (it shows in their defensive way), but too scared to question. Most of them won't be able to distinguish morality from religion until they have partially been liberated of religion, and if they start some questioning, 99.99% of the time they will no longer believe, they will see it all and it will be difficult to stop there
TheWombRaider · 26-30, M
cause they're tired of shouting '' allahu akbar'' without anyone replying lol
UnhatchedEgg · 31-35, F
Not funny
TheWombRaider · 26-30, M
@UnhatchedEgg: true though
SW-User
First. Is it a new thing? Not at all. Its was same centuries ago. Many come and leaves. I also notice, most of these return in later ages. Like this Turkish guy in our corridor and his atheist father. Does science have to do with it? I guess not as my science professors are coming into religions and science students who believe in GOD. What is it then?
One element to my observation is that ehy Controlled by their desires, self centered freedom and struggling with identity crises, stuck between two cultures (those who admire west or grown in west).
The second element. They just don't feel the presence of GOD. For those who believe science have some thing to do with it. It was happening centuries ago as well. There is no ultimate answer to it.
One element to my observation is that ehy Controlled by their desires, self centered freedom and struggling with identity crises, stuck between two cultures (those who admire west or grown in west).
The second element. They just don't feel the presence of GOD. For those who believe science have some thing to do with it. It was happening centuries ago as well. There is no ultimate answer to it.
"I also notice, most of these return in later ages." in your example we're talking about two different persons, two different generations. And from what I gather the son was brought up in a non-Muslim country. Paradoxically feeling more uprooted, more at a loss, than his elders.
SW-User
@EarthlingWise: That son, will always be living in WEST and he was the one to convert his father too, who brought him atheist. All I am implying is that, its very complex human behavior and I can't get a hand on it, what drives one to faiths and one away from faiths, beside the desire of "self centered freedom".
Maybe the father was not practising a religion, but how much thought had he given to it?
SW-User
It's probably just due to exposure to societies that aren't as deeply religious. The pressure isn't there to uphold tradition, they feel more comfortable questioning their beliefs, science is praised as the main way of knowing why things are the way they are... I don't know if any of this makes sense, I'm sort of spacing out right now. Hopefully you get what I mean.
Teirdalin · 31-35
Isn't that a good thing? 🤔
TheWombRaider · 26-30, M
it's a fantastic thing
UnhatchedEgg · 31-35, F
Yes.. didn't answer my question
Teirdalin · 31-35
Well the global standard IQ increases a bit every year; could be they're realizing that religion is probably either false or more complicated than what ancient civilizations could have possibly written down.
SW-User
because humans have freedom of choice if they want to follow a religion or not it's their choice.
NigelDoes · 56-60, M
It seems very telling that all but a few of the respondents here are people I have blocked.
sighmeupforthat · 46-50, M
cite the sources...
UnhatchedEgg · 31-35, F
I can see it with my own eyes
sighmeupforthat · 46-50, M
@UnhatchedEgg: so you have no references for me to peruse.
UnhatchedEgg · 31-35, F
@sighmeupforthat: Read some news and you will be able to spot what I am talking about.
Ynotisay · M
They've decided to choose reality?
bijouxbroussard · F
I didn't realize they were. With organized religion being the source of so much conflict, that sounds like a positive thing.
UnhatchedEgg · 31-35, F
Relative to the population,they probably are a minority, however, it is trending more than ever specially in countries like Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan as compared to the gulf area and amongst the younger population as compared to the older one. It is difficult to measure it though because in Arab countries it is considered a crime that its punishment could reach as high as capital punishment, regardless, people are getting more vocal about it, more than ever, I think the Arab spring, or let's call it the Arab autumn helped with this.
SW-User
@ bijouxbroussard. Geo-Politics and greed to control the earth resources is the core reason of all conflicts and violence, not religions, entire this century and last one.