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Alabamarednek · 36-40, M
Religion is the language in which people interact with God the higher powers.
Unfortunately FAKE RELIGION is as well financed as a western politician for the purpose of spreading indirect propaganda and ignorance for the super and mega rich class in an effort to keep us as people divided so we don't unify on common issues facing all of us.
The same way FAKE ISLAM is peddled around in the middle east we got FAKE CHRISTIANITY amongst us being peddled around in the west.
The K.K.K and the CBN are as fake of christianity as ISIS ISIL and Al Qaeda are fake Islam.
Unfortunately FAKE RELIGION is as well financed as a western politician for the purpose of spreading indirect propaganda and ignorance for the super and mega rich class in an effort to keep us as people divided so we don't unify on common issues facing all of us.
The same way FAKE ISLAM is peddled around in the middle east we got FAKE CHRISTIANITY amongst us being peddled around in the west.
The K.K.K and the CBN are as fake of christianity as ISIS ISIL and Al Qaeda are fake Islam.
NankerPhelge · 61-69, M
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SomeHand · 31-35, M
@NickiHijab Oh okay
NickiHijab · F
@NankerPhelge He’s upset more than just your friends. He’s upset an entire country. Manchester isn’t far from where I live. That day was horrid.
He wasn’t affiliated with any terrorist organisation. He got radicalised by a few around him,
Simply looking at his past shows how he got radicalised. This could have been prevented though, since not one but several people from his college, including his family reported him to an anti-terrorism hotline to warn police about his extremist views.
Plus he was already known by the police for already having committed minor offences like theft and assault. It’s a shame.
He wasn’t affiliated with any terrorist organisation. He got radicalised by a few around him,
Simply looking at his past shows how he got radicalised. This could have been prevented though, since not one but several people from his college, including his family reported him to an anti-terrorism hotline to warn police about his extremist views.
Plus he was already known by the police for already having committed minor offences like theft and assault. It’s a shame.
NankerPhelge · 61-69, M
@NickiHijab I can see that, but please don't downplay the seriousness of why my friends were so upset about it. It was more than just what happened, it was the [i]date[/i] when it happened. It was a special date to certain friends of mine. Why did that guy [i]deliberately choose[/i] that date to do it? What did those particular friends of mine do to [i]him, personally[/i], that he could be that pissed off with them? Please do not take an (excuse my language) impersonal view of this.
PiecingBabyFaceTogether · 26-30
When the Koran says different things on a particular topic, how does the believer come to understand what is intended?
"God - He guides to the truth" [Sura 10:35]
"Allah leads astray whom he pleases, and he guides whom He pleases" [Sura 14:4].
If all occurs only through the will of The One, how is a person free to choose to live a moral life in submission?
"God - He guides to the truth" [Sura 10:35]
"Allah leads astray whom he pleases, and he guides whom He pleases" [Sura 14:4].
If all occurs only through the will of The One, how is a person free to choose to live a moral life in submission?
SomeHand · 31-35, M
@hartfire Its a translation issue on the word "YaShaAa" and "YuDilLa". The word YaShaAaa should not be confused with RiDaA
Long story short: Here is a more appropriate translation
God - He guides to the truth" [Sura 10:35]
"Allah [b]allows/wills [/b]a person to go astray if that person chooses to, and He guides whom He wills" [Sura 14:4].
Long story short: Here is a more appropriate translation
God - He guides to the truth" [Sura 10:35]
"Allah [b]allows/wills [/b]a person to go astray if that person chooses to, and He guides whom He wills" [Sura 14:4].
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SomeHand · 31-35, M
@HipYoungDude
Anal sex is forbidden in Islam.
Anal sex is forbidden in Islam.
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@SomeHand OK - so let me try to understand this more clearly.
The Muslim is the one who believes in Islam,
meaning he or she willingly submits to the will of God.
more specifically...
The Muslim believes that Allah is the One and only God,
that Allah created this world and everything in it,
that the Prophet Mohammed was an ordinary mortal man,
and he was inspired by Allah to be his Messenger,
and therefore the Qur'an is the word of God, hence God's will for humanity.
However, it seems that there are differences in how to interpret the Qur'an when the sayings are ambiguous or seem apparently contradictory.
Since Arabic is a language in which one word can have many meanings,
it is generally agreed by Muslim scholars,
that since Allah is perfect,
all possible meanings and interpretations must be equally true.
To gain clarification, the interpretation of the law seeks outside the Suras, to examine what was remembered of Mohammed's words and actions, and these are taken as guidelines in deciding legal issues and cases. These non-Sura guides are the Hadith.
A few months prior to his death, Muhammad had given a sermon at Ghadir Khumm where he named Ali ibn Abi Talib as his successor.
After the sermon, Muhammad ordered the Muslims to pledge allegiance to Ali.
Among the many who pledged allegiance to Ali were Abu Bakr, Umar ibn al-Khattab, and Uthman ibn Affan.
However, just after Muhammad died, a group of Muslims met at Saqifa, where Umar, a companion of Muhammad, pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr. Abu Bakr then assumed political power, and his supporters became known as the Sunnis.
The Sunni, who represent 85–90% of the world's Muslims, accept [i]all[/i] of the Hadith.
However, the Shia give less authority to the sayings of Mohammed's wife Aisha, and they do not accept the hadith of Abu Hurairah because, although he was a fairly recent (four years) follower of Mohammad, he was the enemy of Mohammad's chosen successor Ali.
These differences arising between the Shia and Sunni appear to be one of the reasons why the tiny minority Wahabi sect (a sub-group of the Sunni) has gone into jihad, to conquer and impose what they consider to be the only correct interpretation of the Qur'an. They also seek to reform their fellow Sunnis.
And long-term, the Wahabi vision was also to try to convert the rest of the world to Islam and their particular view of it.
Have I understood this correctly?
The Muslim is the one who believes in Islam,
meaning he or she willingly submits to the will of God.
more specifically...
The Muslim believes that Allah is the One and only God,
that Allah created this world and everything in it,
that the Prophet Mohammed was an ordinary mortal man,
and he was inspired by Allah to be his Messenger,
and therefore the Qur'an is the word of God, hence God's will for humanity.
However, it seems that there are differences in how to interpret the Qur'an when the sayings are ambiguous or seem apparently contradictory.
Since Arabic is a language in which one word can have many meanings,
it is generally agreed by Muslim scholars,
that since Allah is perfect,
all possible meanings and interpretations must be equally true.
To gain clarification, the interpretation of the law seeks outside the Suras, to examine what was remembered of Mohammed's words and actions, and these are taken as guidelines in deciding legal issues and cases. These non-Sura guides are the Hadith.
A few months prior to his death, Muhammad had given a sermon at Ghadir Khumm where he named Ali ibn Abi Talib as his successor.
After the sermon, Muhammad ordered the Muslims to pledge allegiance to Ali.
Among the many who pledged allegiance to Ali were Abu Bakr, Umar ibn al-Khattab, and Uthman ibn Affan.
However, just after Muhammad died, a group of Muslims met at Saqifa, where Umar, a companion of Muhammad, pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr. Abu Bakr then assumed political power, and his supporters became known as the Sunnis.
The Sunni, who represent 85–90% of the world's Muslims, accept [i]all[/i] of the Hadith.
However, the Shia give less authority to the sayings of Mohammed's wife Aisha, and they do not accept the hadith of Abu Hurairah because, although he was a fairly recent (four years) follower of Mohammad, he was the enemy of Mohammad's chosen successor Ali.
These differences arising between the Shia and Sunni appear to be one of the reasons why the tiny minority Wahabi sect (a sub-group of the Sunni) has gone into jihad, to conquer and impose what they consider to be the only correct interpretation of the Qur'an. They also seek to reform their fellow Sunnis.
And long-term, the Wahabi vision was also to try to convert the rest of the world to Islam and their particular view of it.
Have I understood this correctly?
SomeHand · 31-35, M
@hartfire
[quote]Since Arabic is a language in which one word can have many meanings,
it is generally agreed by Muslim scholars,
that since Allah is perfect,
all possible meanings and interpretations must be equally true.[/quote]
Arabic is a logical language and one word's trilateral root can be conjugated into many meanings. Secondly, an interpretation's validity is different from correctness. A valid interpretations can be reached upon correct methodology, yet still be incorrect. However, incorrect methodology will lead to an invalid interpretation, and thus incorrect position.
[quote]To gain clarification, the interpretation of the law seeks outside the Suras, to examine what was remembered of Mohammed's words and actions, and these are taken as guidelines in deciding legal issues and cases. These non-Sura guides are the Hadith.[/quote]
Yes
[quote]A few months prior to his death, Muhammad had given a sermon at Ghadir Khumm where he named Ali ibn Abi Talib as his successor.
After the sermon, Muhammad ordered the Muslims to pledge allegiance to Ali.
Among the many who pledged allegiance to Ali were Abu Bakr, Umar ibn al-Khattab, and Uthman ibn Affan.
However, just after Muhammad died, a group of Muslims met at Saqifa, where Umar, a companion of Muhammad, pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr. Abu Bakr then assumed political power, and his supporters became known as the Sunnis.[/quote]
This is historically inaccurate because Ali was the fourth caliph. Both Shia and Sunni agree to this that Ali was the fourth caliph. Even if one posits that Ali was pledged as the first (which is historically incorrect), the historical position was that Ali accepted the position as the caliph, after the death of Uthman.
[quote]The Sunni, who represent 85–90% of the world's Muslims, accept all of the Hadith.
However, the Shia give less authority to the sayings of Mohammed's wife Aisha, and they do not accept the hadith of Abu Hurairah because, although he was a fairly recent (four years) follower of Mohammad, he was the enemy of Mohammad's chosen successor Ali.[/quote]
The Science of Hadith methodology is a mix analyzing references in academia and text analysis, along with testimony of character.
[quote]These differences arising between the Shia and Sunni appear to be one of the reasons why the tiny minority Wahabi sect (a sub-group of the Sunni) has gone into jihad, to conquer and impose what they consider to be the only correct interpretation of the Qur'an. They also seek to reform their fellow Sunnis.
And long-term, the Wahabi vision was also to try to convert the rest of the world to Islam and their particular view of it.[/quote]
I don't know too much about Wahabiism.
[quote]Since Arabic is a language in which one word can have many meanings,
it is generally agreed by Muslim scholars,
that since Allah is perfect,
all possible meanings and interpretations must be equally true.[/quote]
Arabic is a logical language and one word's trilateral root can be conjugated into many meanings. Secondly, an interpretation's validity is different from correctness. A valid interpretations can be reached upon correct methodology, yet still be incorrect. However, incorrect methodology will lead to an invalid interpretation, and thus incorrect position.
[quote]To gain clarification, the interpretation of the law seeks outside the Suras, to examine what was remembered of Mohammed's words and actions, and these are taken as guidelines in deciding legal issues and cases. These non-Sura guides are the Hadith.[/quote]
Yes
[quote]A few months prior to his death, Muhammad had given a sermon at Ghadir Khumm where he named Ali ibn Abi Talib as his successor.
After the sermon, Muhammad ordered the Muslims to pledge allegiance to Ali.
Among the many who pledged allegiance to Ali were Abu Bakr, Umar ibn al-Khattab, and Uthman ibn Affan.
However, just after Muhammad died, a group of Muslims met at Saqifa, where Umar, a companion of Muhammad, pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr. Abu Bakr then assumed political power, and his supporters became known as the Sunnis.[/quote]
This is historically inaccurate because Ali was the fourth caliph. Both Shia and Sunni agree to this that Ali was the fourth caliph. Even if one posits that Ali was pledged as the first (which is historically incorrect), the historical position was that Ali accepted the position as the caliph, after the death of Uthman.
[quote]The Sunni, who represent 85–90% of the world's Muslims, accept all of the Hadith.
However, the Shia give less authority to the sayings of Mohammed's wife Aisha, and they do not accept the hadith of Abu Hurairah because, although he was a fairly recent (four years) follower of Mohammad, he was the enemy of Mohammad's chosen successor Ali.[/quote]
The Science of Hadith methodology is a mix analyzing references in academia and text analysis, along with testimony of character.
[quote]These differences arising between the Shia and Sunni appear to be one of the reasons why the tiny minority Wahabi sect (a sub-group of the Sunni) has gone into jihad, to conquer and impose what they consider to be the only correct interpretation of the Qur'an. They also seek to reform their fellow Sunnis.
And long-term, the Wahabi vision was also to try to convert the rest of the world to Islam and their particular view of it.[/quote]
I don't know too much about Wahabiism.
Thank you for your clarifications. I've saved them to my harddrive. :)
MachiavellianSpirit · 26-30, F
Which universities have the most respected historians of Islam?
NickiHijab · F
SomeHand · 31-35, M
@NickiHijab
Its permissible. It's not really a question to ask me about because I'm not wearing it. I think those who wear it are ninjas and props to them - I highly admire that. Its their choice.
Its permissible. It's not really a question to ask me about because I'm not wearing it. I think those who wear it are ninjas and props to them - I highly admire that. Its their choice.
NickiHijab · F
@SomeHand You’re still allowed an opinion even if you’re not wearing it. I don’t wear it and I have an opinion.
😆Okay, thanks. Got it.
😆Okay, thanks. Got it.
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NeloAngelo · 26-30, M
Never understood it but what's the point of the hijab?
NeloAngelo · 26-30, M
so ultimately its like the Jewish caps or the Hindi sari and dhoti? a symbol of the religion?
SomeHand · 31-35, M
@NeloAngelo Maybe maybe not - Islam does not have symbols per se, but the hijab can symbolize islam. Christian women wore head covers. So did Jewish women.
NeloAngelo · 26-30, M
@SomeHand okay. it sorta makes sense now.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 41-45, MVIP
What did ppl who require halal certified meat eat pre 80’s when it magically appeared and became nessasary ?
SomeHand · 31-35, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout
The concept of Halal slaughtering is that the one who is slaughtering the animal needs to take God's permission (instead of the government) and they must not inflict pain upon the animal and the slaughter is for the purposes of consumption (instead of killing animals/game for joy).
Prior to government regulation and publicity, people still slaughtered from farms. There are private farms and amish populations in western areas.
The concept of Halal slaughtering is that the one who is slaughtering the animal needs to take God's permission (instead of the government) and they must not inflict pain upon the animal and the slaughter is for the purposes of consumption (instead of killing animals/game for joy).
Prior to government regulation and publicity, people still slaughtered from farms. There are private farms and amish populations in western areas.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 41-45, MVIP
So. The west are just really pissweak and appeasing? Or just to fucking dumb to realise we’re paying a jizya tax for having the audacity to sell beef and not be a Muslim?
SomeHand · 31-35, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout
Under Muslim rulership, Muslims have to pay Zakat to the poor. Nonmuslims do not have to pay Zakat, its called Jizya tax instead with slightly different conditions.
Its a tax.
Under Muslim rulership, Muslims have to pay Zakat to the poor. Nonmuslims do not have to pay Zakat, its called Jizya tax instead with slightly different conditions.
Its a tax.
YMITheWayIM · 46-50, M
[center]Would ask a question about religion in general. Do God need to prove anything? [/center]
SomeHand · 31-35, M
@YMITheWayIM Do you mean "does"?
Mondayschild · F
What is Islam?
SomeHand · 31-35, M
@Mondayschild
Islam is the belief that there is One God and that God guides people. The guidance is conveyed in messages by messengers. Messengers are many, namely Moses, Jesus, Mohammad.
To follow God's message means you are a Muslim. When people followed Moses's true message, they were Muslims.
Islam is the belief that there is One God and that God guides people. The guidance is conveyed in messages by messengers. Messengers are many, namely Moses, Jesus, Mohammad.
To follow God's message means you are a Muslim. When people followed Moses's true message, they were Muslims.