What would a Libertarian society look like?

@SW-User You don't like their foundation of morality and therefore proceed to dismiss the view of society based on that. You are too ideologically biased to think rationally.

@Arzawa Nothing to be liked or disliked here. What is stupid is stupid. I dismissed it based on reason. Morality requires restrictions. Liberties and restrictions are opposites. You can't make as foundation for something, a thing that is the opposite of it. So the philosophy is non existent, can't dislike what is non existent. Regarding the practicalities, you can't arrive at what is universally accepted as small without enforcing a particular idea of small on everyone. It keeps getting worse.

@SW-User You can't understand. I see you are from India. Now I know why.

If you knew anything about politics and socio-economic relations within a capitalist state, then you wouldn't be asking me that...

@whoami1993 You are deflecting.

@Arzawa You are an idiot... because you cannot comprehend what I said. It''s not deflection if you understood the area you just delved into and I'm not wasting my time educating you

@Burnley123 Yes. The USSR was Communist.

@Burnley123 I wish more people would actually look at the cores of both concepts and start to notice there is a lot of overlap and similar goals in both. Certain factions on both camps have twisted the socialism and libertarianism in ways they seem opposed but anything can be corrupted when it goes to the extremist level.

@Arzawa And Somalia is classically liberal. 😜

@hunkalove why not?

@Arzawa No man is an island. We are all in this mess together.

@hunkalove That's not exactly true. No man is an island, but that man can make voluntary, mutually beneficial relationships with others without being forced to surrender their liberty or autonomy to satisfy another's greater purpose.

@MethDozer Who are your brothers? To quote “Instant Karma” by John Lennon, “Better recognize your brothers/Everyone you meet”.

We all fuck up sometimes. It’s no big deal if you’re already rich, but the rest of us shouldn’t have to be fucked because we made mistakes.

People can’t control their own lives if they don’t have money or power. Leaving everyone alone results in a concentration of wealth, a redistribution of wealth to the top, while most of us slave away for the rich.

@JP1119 Again, you're conflating purely economic slants of some libertarians, with libertarianism as a whole. There's no concrete economic model in libertarianism. There's socialist libertarians as well. Nor does.libertarianism historically support no regulation what so ever. No law. That's a myth. It's just like any other concept, it has it flaws and can be developed into something bad. Instead of the current arguments over politics we would be much better off at a debating things from a democratic socialist vs. Libertrian scale.

John Lennon was a dope and wrote mostly shitty music. What is your brother? Put it this way. My family is more important than my friends, my friends come before aquatniances. My neighborhood comes before my town, town, before state, so on and so on. Sorry but some stranger on the other side of the map is not my brother.

@JP1119 You really just said people shouldn't suffer their mistakes. Falsegod help you if you think that.What we should all pay for someone's mistakes? Fuck that.

@Arzawa And does the small state raise a great army?

@Xuan12 No. But what stops the US from invading the Bahamas or Haiti?

@Arzawa The fact that we don't care about what they have, they are not threats, and if we did want them, it would be easy.

@Tracos A voluntary society that maximizes liberty within a minarchist state.

I think that would be a society in decay.... No infrastructure, no welfare, no basic education... Probably vigilante law enforcement

@Tracos Why wouldn't you have infrastructure? We have toll bridges in the US. We have HOAs in the US. Depending on the people they may or may not support basic education funded by taxpayers. The law would still exist, but there would be fewer things for police to worry about. The legal systems would be based on making victims whole.

@dunpender Why is that?

@MethDozer Alaska is a huge welfare state. Alaskans receive subsidies from oil and federal treaty obligations mean Native Alaskans receive billions in Aid.

@Arzawa Dividends are not welfare by any means. Oil should he forced to pay them for using public land to profit from their pipelines. Comparing dividends to welfare is beyond retarded, oil is by no means a victim for having to pay the people to rent the peoples public land. Which is what it really is.

Besides I'm talking more the isolated chosen communities there.