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I'm not sure if this excites me about the future or scares the bejesus out of me...


Fun Fact: Lab-grown human and mouse brain cells living in a petri dish became sentient enough to learn to play the video game Pong. That’s right – scientists found that brain cells learn to play Pong, the 1970s tennis-type video game.


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In news that we don’t find even remotely comforting, brain cells grown in a petri dish have been shown to become sentient enough to learn to play video games. And we’re not kidding when we say that their next plan is to get the brain cells drunk and see what happens.

Sentient brain cells living in a dish
To be clear, these are cells that are living in a petri dish – not a person. They are human cells derived from stem cells and mouse cells derived from embryonic cells. There are 800,000 cells in total involved in the experiment.

Not only have the cells learned to play the game Pong, but they keep improving. “They played longer rallies and were aced less often,” reported The Guardian (cited below). Of course, Pong is a very simple game, which is why the researchers chose it in the first place.

The study that revealed the experiment was just published in the journal Neuron.

The researchers hail from Cortical Labs, Monash University, the University of Melbourne, and University College London.

How can brain cells learn to play Pong?
According to The Guardian, the researchers out the cells on something called the “DishBrain,” “a multi-electrode array that can sense cell activity and stimulate the cells, then gave the cells feedback on whether the paddle was hitting the ball.”

Within five minutes the cells started to communicate using electrical activity to operate the game. It sounds like sci-fi, but it’s true.

“Now the researchers will see how the cells perform when they are drunk or given medicines. They hope to use the DishBrain to learn more about conditions such as epilepsy and dementia.”

“This is the new way to think about what a neuron is,” a researcher said.
— WTF fun facts

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What do you think about this???
Longpatrol · 31-35, M
I only have one braincell and they out there growing their own to play pong.
Longpatrol · 31-35, M
@sarabee1995 actually amazing
@sarabee1995 Yes ! We’re joking, but if it’s real it could
become a big deal. My mother has a healthy body, but her mind is going. 🥺
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@bijouxbroussard My grandmother just passed from complications of late stages Alzheimer's. Brain issues are so scary and so sad. Hopefully this is the very early stages of some kind of treatment. 🤷‍♀️
Yulianna · 22-25, F
heilige scheisse! you need brain cells to play Pong??? 😯
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@HootyTheNightOwl 🙋‍♀️
Yulianna · 22-25, F
@sarabee1995 😂😂😂
Yulianna · 22-25, F
TexChik · F
Sounds like we should be able to repair brain and nerve injuries some day
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@TexChik I think that's the hope. 🤞
Scribbles · 36-40, F
I guess I would wonder if justice Clarence Thomas would want to consider if brain organoids would be eligible for legal human rights or not. Allyson Muotri's group discovered with their human brain organoids, that some produced coordinated waves of activity, resembling those seen in very premature babies. Say in the future more progression is made...Without a body, I wonder what kind of consciousness brain tissues alone experiences via electrical activity alone. Interesting, yes?

I'm unsurprised by the post. It's very common for neuroscience labs to grow brain tissues in a petri dish. Most are the size of a sesame seed. It helps them study the brain, test things. Maybe some day we'll be able to treat more issues with the brain.

Why do you think it's scary though? That I don't understand.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Scribbles So I hope this is all just to help us cure things. That doesn't bother me or cause me any concern.

But fast forward ten... twenty... fifty years ... if we can grow organs, including brains and attach them to electronics... yes, I fear where that leads... humanoid brain-powered androids??
Straylight · 31-35, F
If a cluster of lab grown brain cells can play a (admittedly simple) game, I wonder if it will make people reconsider their opinions on when a human embryo is a person? 🤔
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Straylight That was my first thought!!!

I don't think many would claim that this clump of cells in a petri dish are a human being with all the rights, etc. But it is hard to argue the difference between these living cells with 46 chromosomes and an early stage zygote.

We live in strange times indeed!
It's intriguing, but scary. Knowing humans, they'll find a way to use this to cause harm to others and the world.
@NerdyPotato Sad, but very true. 🙁
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@NerdyPotato I hope not. 😔
I am old enough to remember how exciting Pong was.
Really hi-tec!
@TheSirfurryanimalWales One of the first games I played.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
helenS · 36-40, F
This is a falsehood, an untruth, a whopper and a taradiddle, or to put it in clearer terms: a lie.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@HootyTheNightOwl Scary concept. Don't forget there are plenty of living breathing humans who, "aren't even capable of doing the basics needed to exercise an independent life."
helenS · 36-40, F
@sarabee1995 "Applying implications from the theory of active inference via the free energy principle"
That sounds very strange to me. More like L. Ron Hubbard "SF" talk.
Keep in mind that the core of the neuroscience ideology is that the human spirit is just an interaction of nerve cells.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@helenS 🤔

It sounds strange to you because you're familiar with the underlying science and the author appears to be applying it incorrectly??

Or it sounds strange to you because you've never heard of these well-established principles and don't understand their application here??

Or something else?

It seems like you don't want this experiment to have worked. All they did was culture some brain cells and connect them to electrodes to see if they would process information. No different from culturing pancreatic cells to see if they would produce insulin. No one is claiming to have created a human soul.
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
I wouldn't worry....it's when they learn how to Ping you have to worry.
Yulianna · 22-25, F
@KiwiBird 😂😂😂
Ducky · 31-35, F
Cool! Wonder if it can learn to play Pac-Man next?
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Ducky That would be scary. You know they wouldn't stop.
PoeticPlay · 51-55, M
Why should this strike anyone as new or scary?

It is just a glimpse from outside of the dish.
Straylight · 31-35, F
Wow, that’s amazing!
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@Straylight Among other things. 🙂
vetguy1991 · 51-55, M
I could play pong as a child

 
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