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Piper · 61-69, F
I'm not too young to get the reference, although it is only the "no blacks" signs I ever actually [b]saw[/b] (in 'real time') sometimes, in my lifetime.
@Peaches Fucking Nazi pricks. I'm sorry you had to go through that.
Peaches · F
@LeopoldBloom After they hassled us over a can of beer, they said they also found illegal drugs?! We didn't have any and were afraid to go to court, but they had no paper work from the police department when we got there?! 😯
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SageWanderer · 70-79, M
I remember seeing job ads saying no Italian need apply. May not be written words anymore but seen the attitude resurrected.
@bijouxbroussard now we can add the american indians to that list
still today . they are not counted in a lot of job reports on unemployment.
[image deleted]to be fair whites are a bunch of well... its call manifest destiny

Manifest Destiny, a phrase coined in 1845, is the idea that the United States is destined—by God, its advocates believed—to expand its dominion and spread democracy and capitalism across the entire North American continent. . so in the name of god all white is right

https://www.history.com/topics/westward-expansion/manifest-destiny
@bijouxbroussard [quote]Wow. Even when segregation was no longer law, the custom persisted.[/quote]
That's why anybody saying racism is no longer a thing because racist practices are outlawed is full of it.
@LordShadowfire Exactly.
Irish and Africans Americans had lots in common and lots of contact during this period; they lived side by side and shared work spaces. In the early years of immigration the poor Irish and blacks were thrown together, very much part of the same class competing for the same jobs. In the census of 1850, the term mulatto appears for the first time due primarily to inter-marriage between Irish and African Americans. The Irish were often referred to as "Negroes turned inside out and Negroes as smoked Irish."

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https://sites.pitt.edu/~hirtle/uujec/white.html
@bijouxbroussardits a bit of a long read and the link will be to it. you know me and we agree on this.

Back home these "native Irish or papists" suffered something very similar to American slavery under English Penal Laws. Yet, despite their revolutionary roots as an oppressed group fighting for freedom and rights, and despite consistent pleas from the great Catholic emancipator, Daniel O'Connell, to support the abolitionists, the newly arrived Irish-Americans judged that the best way of gaining acceptance as good citizens and to counter the Nativist movement was to cooperate in the continued oppression of African Americans. Ironically, at the same time they were collaborating with the dominant culture to block abolition, they were garnering support from among Southern, slaveholding democrats for Repeal of the oppressive English Act of the Union back home. Some even convinced themselves that abolition was an English plot to weaken this country.

Upon hearing of this position on the part of so many of his fellow countrymen now residing in the United States, in 1843 O'Connell wrote: "Over the broad Atlantic I pour forth my voice, saying, come out of such a land, you Irishmen; or, if you remain, and dare countenance the system of slavery that is supported there, we will recognize you as Irishmen no longer." It's a tragic story. In a letter published in the Liberator in 1854, it was stated that "passage to the United States seems to produce the same effect upon the exile of Erin as the eating of the forbidden fruit did upon Adam and Eve. In the morning, they were pure, loving, and innocent; in the evening, guilty."

https://sites.pitt.edu/~hirtle/uujec/white.html
@bijouxbroussard Years after his wife's death, Thomas Jefferson fathered at least six of Sally Hemings's children. Four survived to adulthood and are mentioned in Jefferson's plantation records:

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@markansas I knew this, too. Sally Hemings was a [b]14[/b] year old slave girl. Jefferson, who said
[quote]Jefferson said blacks are “inferior to the whites in the endowments of body and mind,” [/quote], basically raped a child. And her descendants proved it by sharing DNA with his white descendants from recent tests.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
I personally saw Whites Only signs on drinking fountains when I lived in South Carolina in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Hard to believe, but unfortunately it has become more believable in the past ten years seeing the GOP try to move history backward.
@windinhishair I remember the signs as a child, and then there was the Woolworth’s experience. So when people like Ron Paul say that the Civil Rights Act shouldn’t have been passed, that should’ve been able to continue discriminating, nobody can tell me they’re not racists.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@bijouxbroussard I didn't think about them much as a child, but by my teens I realized they were racist and that people who supported the system that allowed them were racists themselves. Over 50 years later, Paul and others continue to show that to be true.
Rutterman · 46-50, M
Oh, I get it, and I approve this message.

Never personally saw any signs saying, "No Blacks, dogs, or Irish", but I'm aware that some establishments once did post such signs.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
I have that tee shirt. It gets comments! Lol
@Entwistle Oh, I bet It does ! 😄
Dino11 · M
The Irish were treated very badly too, bottom of the socialorder.
@Dino11 Yes, but they eventually assimilated and today many people of Irish descent hold positions at the pinnacle of power in our society. So you can knock off the "Irish were slaves too" crap. It's not comparable. The Irish were seriously fucked over by the English, but they did comparatively well in the US.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom Irish were never slaves in America; at most they were indentured servants or apprentices.
@ChipmunkErnie Correct. Another reason why it’s ludicrous to compare them to Black people.
I dont remember....
@Soossie See my reply to Gusman.
Peaches · F
It IS a good one! 😆
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
You forgot the "More Jews"
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard I was thinking of the USA signs.
@ChipmunkErnie I know. That’s why I said, these folks are in the UK.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard I was thrown by them being on 6th Avenue -- I just took it for granted they were in NYC.
pentacorn · F
not sure of the reference fully, but i know i want more of it 😊
@pentacorn See my reply to Gusman.
pentacorn · F
@bijouxbroussard i saw it after i made my comment. cool how the t-shirt turns that msg of hate into a msg of love. now i want one for myself.
Gusman · 61-69, M
Don't understand - over my head
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@Soossie except for the Irish who are pretty well integrated here in the US, some people still feel that way about dark skin people, oriental people ,and Jewish people. They actually try to have their own private white world and preach it should be their right to only be around their "own kind" ,as they put it,it is disgusting and I've never understood it.
@Justmeraeagain

That is a combination of arrogance and ignorance ... so very sad...
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@Soossie True
can i join in again? grin
ya got the troops rallied up .
I find it very interesting that each wave of immigrants has forgotten they are immigrants when the next wave comes from a different country. Happens without fail.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire Hey, they can't all be gems. :)
Entwistle · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire No Blacks,no Irish,no dogs was often a sign in newspaper adverts and hanging on doors of houses with rooms to rent. The landlords didn't want Black folks,Irish folks or anyone with dogs renting out their rooms.
@Entwistle Yes, I'm aware. It was a bad joke.

I'm going to go slap myself on the wrist with a ruler now.

 
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