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Is cash on the way out?

This morning, looking for a coffee, the first two places would not take cash so I went elsewhere.
Last week I went to a coffee shop at 1.50pm on a Friday. The person behind the counter informed me they close at 2pm. I went elsewhere. That place also does not accept cash. I told this to my friend's wife and she said there are many senior people who no longer go there because they do not take cash.
One place I went to would not serve me a coffee unless I bought a meal.
How can businesses complain when they do not take the money people want to part with?
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
I think cash is mainly an issue for people above a certain age (check mine) and those who want to do business without declaring income. I always have cash in my wallet just in case the bank computers go down, which they do from time to time. However, I rarely use it. My window cleaner insists on it because he believes that 'they' 🤷‍♀ are watching him and everyone else.

I asked one trader about whether they would prefer me to use my phone for a small amount or cash and the response was it costs them as much to spend time counting and bagging the cash and getting it to a bank as it does to pay the small surcharge. For that business he felt it didn't make that much difference.

Depending on your customer base, I imagine you will decide whether you can afford to lose one or other of the groups that don't want to go along with your decision. I have to remember to keep the right amount of cash for the window cleaner. I could say, I'll change and go with one who will take my card, but I choose not to.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Most shops in the UK offer cash, card or telephone-service payments but I did use a card-only coffee-shop recently.

Complete ending of cash in Britain would cause serious problems for a particulat aspect of our society. It has a huge wealth of amateur clubs and societies, voluntary-run public events like lectures, church groups and charities. These use, even rely, on hundreds of small-change transactions and donations for which electronic payments are just not practicable. The total annual turn-over of these is probably incalculable but I would not be surprised if it runs into some £millions.

Also, the rising costs of living and the dangers of living on loans (credit-cards) and instant transfers (debit-cards, 'phones) have brought home to many people that it is too easy to overspend by these methods, so they have reverted to rationing their spending by using cash (e.g. from ATMs) for everyday shopping and small treats.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK I wonder if they collect more that way?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Gusman I don't know numbers but many have been removed in Britain too; and a lot of bank branches have closed.

The banks' excuse is the growing number of people banking on-line; a statement so disingenuous I am convinced they have special Board Meetings to discuss the best way to patronise the public.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@ArishMell
I wonder if they collect more that way?

We are a self-supporting congregation and do not expect visitors to give anything. The giving increases each year and keeps pace with the needs locally and for at least 1/3rd of income to be given away.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Maintaining a full range of payment options is a costly overhead for small businesses. Card transactions incur service charges, physical cash is not always easy to obtain and deal with when so many bank branches and post office counters have closed . . and accounting for it is time consuming and risky for human cashiers. Not wishing to apologise for the cost-cutting actions of large banks, but a certain amount of understanding and patience is required with independent retailers.
Sazzio · 36-40, M
Yes we are becoming a Cashless society it appears.

One takeaway (our fav infact) barely does card he prefers cash. His second method is Bank transfer there n then. They have card machines but barely use!
Sazzio · 36-40, M
Another thing, China is cashless at every point. People do not need to carry cash. Unfortunately this means if u lose your phone or malfunctions then yer in deep, deep trouble.

Phone is the people's soul. People must scan their passports, which is on their phone before entering ANY building be it small cafe or Government building. Green lights enter red lights no entry. Red lights, the individual is a criminal on the lose OR wanted in for q's by the police. Only way entry is granted by seeing the police who will sort it out. Imagine a Country where yer not allowed entry into even a small café let alone big shopping malls!!!

So apart from cash reasons, people have MORE reasons not to leave home w/o a phone. Imagine being stuck w/o a phone and it is mandatory for a train / taxi journey back!!!
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
Interesting. Here in Norway where we have gone in the cashless direction much further than most any permanently established shop where you pay directly in the shop is required by law to accept cash.

https://www.forbrukertilsynet.no/plikten-til-a-ta-imot-betaling-med-kontanter

The law was changed last year to make this so. It is, in part at least, a response to the worsening security situation with respect to Russia.
https://www.stortinget.no/no/Saker-og-publikasjoner/Vedtak/Beslutninger/Lovvedtak/2023-2024/vedtak-202324-066/

The DSB (Direktoratet for samfunnssikkerhet og beredskap, Norwegian Directorate for Civil Protection) recommends that one always have cash available:


Self-preparedness for payments

Payment systems in Norway are secure and effective. However, digital attacks, human error or power outages may make it impossible to pay for goods in stores. Therefore the Bank of Norway recommends that everyone should have several payment alternatives.

Having several payment alternatives can limit the consequences if you can no longer pay for things as you normally do. Here is the Bank of Norway’s self-preparedness advice.
Hold several payment cards

Holding different payment cards offers good preparedness in the event of a failure of a payment service. These can be different types of payment cards (debit or credit card), or cards issued by different banks.
Keep some cash

Cash can be used even if reserve electronic solutions no longer function; however, in some situations, it can be difficult to obtain. The Bank of Norway therefore recommends that you keep some cash available, in various and preferably smaller values. Assess the amount based on what you have of emergency goods and what you may need to purchase in an emergency situation.
Keep accounts in several banks

Having accounts in several banks enhances self-preparedness if technical problems should occur in one of the banks.
https://www.dsb.no/en/Safe-everyday-life/Self-preparedness/Self-preparedness-for-payments/
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
It's getting worse then that. Went to a well known taco place here and you must use their computer to even place the order.

They don't even ring it up themselves. Told her that was the last time I will go there BTW.
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@DeWayfarer
Told her that was the last time I will go there BTW.

That's good. Vote with your feet. Maybe they'll get the message when they lose a good portion of their business.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@beckyromero the problem is the drive in is packed!

What they lose at the counter they make up in the drive through.

That means less cleaning in the dining room. Heck even in the restrooms.
NCCindy · 36-40, F
Funny, I was visiting a nearby city.

Half of the places to eat only took plastic, the other half cha ge you extra if you didn't pay cash
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@NCCindy That's illegal in the UK.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@NCCindy many restaurants charge 3% for use of cards. if we use a car for the bill, we give the tip in cash.
hunkalove · 70-79, M
I think there is still a law that businesses have to accept cash but it's being ignored. I still use cash for almost everything.
Most professional sporting venues here are cashless but I don’t know any cafe or shop in my area that refuses cash.
Gusman · 61-69, M
@TheSirfurryanimalWales They are refusing cash to their detriment.
Driving customers away. "We do not want your cash"
Thrust · 56-60, M
@TheSirfurryanimalWales

Yes the sports arenas do that. But that is to get more folks through (lines moves much faster) - maximize that greed!
FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M
Coin roll hunting half dollars I had a bunch and the gas station guy told me nobody wants them when I paid with em...he accepted my payment but didn't like it.
Say what you want..............but no one I know has ever had a $100 bill hacked. And if I lose one all I lose is $100...........not my entire balance.
HotPizza71 · 51-55, M
It doesn't cost them really to take money 💰,just a bank pick up maybe. But if there's very small amounts due to the high payments in card,they should still take cash.
I've noticed many station's band airports are cashless too recently..and outside events like concert's,food festival's
chrisCA · M
I rarely carry cash.
At coffee shops I use Google wallet or the shop's app.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
Let them complain. The ones not taking cash I suspect think they are reducing robbery attempts while driving customers away.
Gusman · 61-69, M
@Gibbon Exactly true. That is the reason the place that closes at 2pm on Fridays is going backwards. It used to be busy, staying open till 5pm. All the seniors no longer go there. I can see that place closing down within 6 months.
jehova · 31-35, M
Wow what state are u in? Also its about the decreasing value of tangible currency as well as the addition of interest charged on electronic payments as part of fiat currency. Try coins?
Gusman · 61-69, M
@jehova Perth Western Australia. Card only means no cash. Coins are cash.
jehova · 31-35, M
@Gusman ok so its about all the interest charges. I think so. % interest on all purchases. The system needs those added fees? Also no cashier needed and electronic payments can be tracked. What if you were to go missing? How would anyone find you?
I think everywhere went cashless for Covid and kept it
Thrust · 56-60, M
Where is this? That's so demented.

I'd demand they take the cash and return the 2% service charge every transaction goes through
Gusman · 61-69, M
@Thrust Perth, Mandurah, all over. Becoming more prevalent.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Clearly the places you go are doing so well they dont want your business. Oblige them by taking it elsewhere.😷
Gusman · 61-69, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Which is what I do. After asking them, so you don't need my custom?
You don't want my money?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Gusman Here the only businesses I have a problem with are professionals like a dentist or similar. And the local Chinese take away is cash only..😷
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
The powers that be want to track everyone's purchases and whereabouts.
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Gusman · 61-69, M
@jshm2 True that. I do not seem to hold on to it for long.😢 😄
DDonde · 31-35, M
It's just numbers.
Musicman · 61-69, MVIP
No. They want cash gone, but anytime there is a natural disaster and the power and Internet are out then all of a sudden cash becomes king and your cards are not good anywhere.
Gusman · 61-69, M
@Musicman There's the rub. Outages occur, then they will accept cash. Stuff them. I will not give them my cash in those situations. 😄

 
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