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Is Andrew Tate Gay?


The few I've talked to about this feel much more strongly than I do about him being gay, I'm sort of on board, more so the more I hear the arguments..

For me it's just a gaydar tingle, he cares way too much about being in shape, his appearance, looking cool, amd trying to impress people with low self esteem his views on masculinity are correct.

Most straight masculine guys I know, myself included, really couldn't give a damn about how we look, it's good enough. The exact opposite end of the spectrum is people intentionally caring to look masculine, usually either militant lesbian dykes who take very superficial aspects of male culture and adopt it well enough to convince a feminine lesbian to date them for their "masculine vibes", and gay guys who are way into the workout bro culture, and have every kind of brush, tweezer and cream for their immaculant beards, and the very best tailored clothes. Everything matches, it's all show. I'm lucky if I can find clean shorts and shirts in my clean clothes pile (seperate from my dirty clothes pile I sometimes sniff test through if I don't have enough clean clothes).

Now..... I didn't know till recently head waxing was a thing, apparently Andrew Tate is into this. I really didn't know the secret to having a shiny head, and honestly, still don't know. Is it like spit polishing old black military boots, you just rub a spot for hours till it shines? Some kind of ointment? Rub some turtle wax in? I don't know any guys to ask about this because the guys I know are all straight. Many have shaved heads because of giving up once hair loss kicked in, but none of polished heads. Which kinda lends credence to the argument he is gay.

I've also seen it nitpicked he obsesses way too much over how his/your women to should act and behave (women bring this up). In my case my insistence on how a woman I am with is like.... don't be a stripper, and since I don't drink and smoke I don't want a smoker or heavy drinker (casual drinker at most). But I really don't think I really ever gave a damn about how a woman should dress or behave. Just so long as it doesn't embarrass me I guess. I'd like it nice. I can definately spot it when a woman is nicely dressed. But I don't have a philosophy or regime on how it should look, beyond maybe if I say I like a hairstyle she is wearing it means I am wanting it to stay that way, please don't change it (ever). But if I gotta be brought to fashion boutiques and have to pick everything out with her I'm going to be annoyed. Most I want to do is point at a few women in a magazine or at a storefront manniquin and say "I guess that looks nice, I could date that". But I couldn't invest that much time into worrying about women in this area. That's what gay guys do. They obsess over women's fashion and makeup. How they behave, relationship drama. I know instagram models can get wrecked by this dual metric too.... if a supermodel has too many male to female followers, make up brands won't sponser them. And straight guys refuse to follow accounts of attractive women talking makeup and fashion all the time. So the models have to pick a following.

If I had to live up to gay guy standards on how to be a man I would fail horribly. Andrew Tate seems to somehow pass. And that has me scratching my head. But others are far more convinced of it than me. What's your take?
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Fishy · 36-40, F
Tbh, I can't stand they guy,

But I don't think the things you mentioned really define someone's sexuality 😬
@Dignaga I read Lea Remini's book after it came out, and WOW, the way they cover up the disapearance of Mrs Muscavage is baffling how the FBI won't even get involved, and how David sent a hit squad after his own father. She never mentioned the girl who took her own life.
@NativePortlander1970 I don't know about the girl who killed herself, but I did see the youtube channel Growing Up In Scientology cover new updates in a bunch of videos. He thinks the local police force out in the california movie production compound (the one with a sniper's nest built up in the hillside above it) has been bought off.... and maybe, I don't know. I really don't feel like strolling into another scientology compound, the people are weird. I was invited into the Washington DC one (literally just strolling by, bug brown mansion) and they offered me the test and I noticed it had a lan line port plug in it after he said they never record the sessions. But they did invite me to see Hubbard's real Washington DC office two or so blocks down the street (they maintain a fake office of his in every showcase scientology building, so the first one I saw was a fake with a big ass globe and books all on the walls).

I went to the other office, it was small, looker like the furniture in the office proper was all military surplus WW2 desks and shelves, bht they updated the waiting room. A old australian woman was running the place. I asked a few questions and was recognizing alot of the stuff and the pics were all generic military stuff (he was ex navy) and I was describing to her what was going on when she said she didn't know. We were both writers and into science fiction and I was thinking to myself Hubbard was sorta just generic. I knew a few dozen guys just like him. But the more I said the more her eyes lit up, and she clasped her hands together when I asked if they believed in reincarnation, after getting a weird feeling looking at their weird shaped cross on display. She said yes really triumphantly and that's when I realized why she was so excited looking at me and then left. Never stepped back.

Alot of them are still lookingnfor Hubbard reincarnated on Earth (he lead a very generic boring life outside of the scientology stuff, anyone would fit his profile in someway). They are switching over to the claim he reincarnated on a different earth now given he never showed up, and all scientologists will reincarnate there to follow him. It's weird.
@Dignaga 🙄
ffony · M
You're afraid to ask him.
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Kenworth4954 · 56-60, M
Sounds like somebody is jacking to some Tate.
Fishy · 36-40, F
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@LeopoldBloom I care, to an extent, not because I would think any less of him if he was, but because it would prove my pet theory about people who are obsessed with telling everybody how not to be gay. You just know that MF is so far in the closet he's found Narnia.
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@LordShadowfire He sounds like he just read Nietzsche in his research on how to become the culturally masculine ubermensch, which suggests to me it is all one big insecurity where he had to study up on getting people to like and follow him.


We accept female actresses doing this and it's perfectly fine for them to have adoring male fans, but gets a little weird when it is man being adorned.... by other men, like the Chris Kattan character from Saturday Night Live "Mango":


But then it gets really, really weird when child actors grow up, and the girl actors all come out as stright but needy for attention and fame (typical hollywood star) but the guys come out as gay and needy for attention and fame. Something about the process of needing to be seen and loved and being that popular changes brain chemistry. Same for gym rats, one out of ten guys in gyms have Muscle Dysmorphia, where they panic and fret over their physical looks like a woman would. Those guys don't tend to be straight. I'm not talking about the howling guy with a beard dead lifting in his own corner, he has other issues. I'm talking the guys over obsessed with their appearance. It's a very lady like mental orientation. It's why women take forever in the bathroom getting ready and go on crazy diets have have pictures constantly taken of them by their friends. Straight for women, but tends to run gay for men.
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@NativePortlander1970 No, I see my eyelids when I do that.
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