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Do you believe that a parent is entitled to have contact with their adult child/children

or that they need to earn it?

After you’ve grown up and a shitty parent asks, pleads, demands your attention, do you give it?

Do you think oh, they gave me life, I should appreciate that and overlook the abuse/neglect/whatever because they thought they were doing their best?

Or do you say well damn, they should have educated themselves and done some introspection and some work so that they could have done better, and not caused me so much pain, and my life is better off without them in it, so they can just bugger off?
BarbossasHusband · 36-40, M
It should be earned, for sure.

Speaking from experience: My mom expected me to hate my bio dad even tho I never met him, and to love her. I secretly met my dad once (making the total amount of times I met him twice) and he had every chance to talk shit about my mom, but chose not to)

Meanwhile, my mom is extremely toxic, but I'm too scared of her to cut her out of my life.

(Bio dad died from cancer exactly one week after I met him, sadly, so I never got a chance to have a relationship with him)
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BarbossasHusband · 36-40, M
@Akimbo75 If it's your sons desicion based on his own experience, that's fair. Might as well tell him the truth as you know it then.
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
From what I've learned in CoDA and witnessed in recovery buddies many of whom are also in ACA, no - a toxic abusive parent is NOT entitled to your time and attention, especially if they cross boundaries

While yes, the fabric of society and familial relationship somewhat depends on being able to trust the younger generations will care for us when we become unable, in some instances it is more detrimental to the mental health of an adult child to maintain some distance and boundaries with their parents/family of origin.

Thankfully I think most adult children want to take actions to ensure their parents are taken care of- even when their parents are toxic because supporting and accepting your family at all cost is a value many/most of us share. I also think many individuals who have toxic parents come to understand as we get older that our parents will never change, nor are they willing/able to educate themselves on the trauma they've caused nor own their part of the dysfunctional relationship with their children.

It can be true that a toxic parent thought they did their best, they may actually have done their best and at the same time their "best" may not have been what you needed and thwir "best" was damaging to you.

It's absolutely okay to tell your parents No, not right now, I can do xyz for you with the condition of, and a whole host of other healthy boundary setting responses. Even if you are an only child.
Akimbo75 · 46-50, F
@Starcrossed Thank you for your thoughtful answer. Boundary setting for a toxic parent are the words I needed, I think. TY
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
@Akimbo75 I hope your son will be heard and respected in his boundary setting, and if he isn't respected he'll feel the support from you and perhaps others to implement consequences to having his boundaries crossed.
greensnacks · 31-35, F
It's very complicated. Based on the level of abuse, level of your desire to maintain the contact and their willingness to not hurt you anymore.

Also, just to be clear, NO ONE on this planet is entitled to your time.
Akimbo75 · 46-50, F
@greensnacks yes. if the parent showed some remorse and tried to do better… then yeah i’d have some sympathy for them.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Your adult relationship with your children is the reward for your parenting.
Akimbo75 · 46-50, F
@CountScrofula exactly. makes me nuts when they think it’s a right. like no, your child is not an extension of you. they are an actual individual person.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@Akimbo75
your child is not an extension of you.

Exactly. This is where I've seen so many relationships fall apart. If you treat your child as a part of your own identity, then when that child differs from you it ends up being perceived as an attack or threat that has to be dealt with accordingly.
Parental rights terminate when a child reaches the age of majority (18 in most US states; there are exceptions).

At that point it's entirely up to the child to decide who to keep in contact with. Past the age of majority, contact has to be earned. And woe betide those who did not lay a foundation for a lasting relationship with their adult children.
Akimbo75 · 46-50, F
@ElwoodBlues agree. I have a friend who takes care of her sick, elderly parents. They don’t have money. She stretches herself so thin to take care of them- and they put her through some very rough things. Her siblings all refuse to help. I don’t get her commitment. But I respect it. But I probably couldn’t do it if it were me.
updown2020 · 61-69, M
A parent can demand all they like but it’s up to the child if they want to connect. For all we know the child probably could not wait until they could legally get away and wanted to break free if that and maybe the parent is toxic and want to give there children that toxicity well no wonder why the child wants the parent to stay away . As an adult the child decides who they want in there life and that includes parents.
Confined · 56-60, M
My middle brother has disowned us. We dont know why, and even wont tell his wife. He got everything he ever wanted.

But if parents were abusive and really did you wrong, then yes Id say ignore them. I hope you have told them why they do not deserve forgiveness.
Akimbo75 · 46-50, F
@Confined this isn’t about me exactly. my son refuses to talk to his father. I continue to get hate mail from my ex. But now that he’s 18, I no longer feel responsible for helping my ex gain access to his son.
LunarOrbit · 56-60, M
I believe its an individual’s choice. Whatever makes them sleep better at night.

I don’t think society should dictate how to tolerate other peoples behaviour.
Akimbo75 · 46-50, F
@LunarOrbit that’s fair, but what would your choice be, if you had to make it?
LunarOrbit · 56-60, M
@Akimbo75 Yeesh. I can’t answer that. Its complicated
Akimbo75 · 46-50, F
If toxicity is the relationship they built, why expect anything good in return? They are fooling themselves if they expect to receive anything better than what was given.
Akimbo75 · 46-50, F
@nonsensiclesnail amen sister
Once you're grown, you make that decision of who or who is not in your life. But, I wouldn't just disappear. I would confront then and make it perfectly clear as to why I am choosing to cut them out of my life.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
As an absent parent myself I would plead the case by at least hearing me out and in return I will answer anything you might not like my answers but they will be as truthful as I understand them.
No.one owes anyone anything . We don't have children so we can feel we " own" them . No one is truly anyones to own. They are their own person and it's their choice .
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
Maybe they have realized their mistakes and are trying to make amends. Give them the benefit of the doubt at first then reassess.
meJess · F
No person should feel entitled to anything from another. Relationships are balances.
PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
Absolutely not, in no way shape or form ever
Aysel · F
Entitled? Certainly not.
I don’t think a person should be forced to have contact with anyone they don’t want in their life. No matter who it is. Even though a parent gave a person life, if they subsequently made that life miserable and the person no longer wants to see them, that should be respected.
Akimbo75 · 46-50, F
@bijouxbroussard thank you. ❤
Jexie · 26-30, F
It totally depends on the relationship but I don't think you should totally neglect them from a humane point of view. But you don't have to keep them in your life.
Moneyonmymind · 31-35, M
Well no not if they’re adults
If an adult child cuts off contact, for any reason, the parent has zero entitlement to see them.
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Akimbo75 · 46-50, F
@hunkalove I’m glad you got out.
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Akimbo75 · 46-50, F
@Justafantasy right??!!!
@Akimbo75 being told you're an adult and take the blame by someone who has blamed you for everything that's ever gone wrong all your life is kind of ironic.
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