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Alternative European map. [I Am European]

I found it online. In general, I agree more than disagree with it.


Things I would change:
- Spain and Portugal should join.
- Bavaria and Austria should be together too.
- Belgium should be split between France and the Netherlands.
- Italy is too divided

Things I really like:
- Ireland and UK together.
- Ukraine split between Russia and Poland+Lithuania
- Albania absorbed by the former Yugoslavia.
- The partition of Germany
- Istambul is Greek again 👍
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Mugin16 · 46-50, M
Very interesting map. The Irish certainly would not like to be back in the UK again.

You forgot to mention that Austria-Hungary was reunited but without Bosnia or the Banat.

France would be the big winner geopolitically. Its old allies Bavaria and, far more important, Poland-Lithuania are back and Germany is partioned.
Cierzo · M
@Mugin16 I wish Poland would forget about being allies with the US and would turn its eyes towards France again.
Cierzo · M
@Mugin16 That's certainly something I would like to see before I die.
Mugin16 · 46-50, M
@Cierzo That will only happen after the U.S. has collapsed. France is too weak to defend Poland against Germany or Russia.
Mugin16 · 46-50, M
This map shows the French plans for a post-war Europe.

Cierzo · M
@Elessar And Iran. Teheran in Russian land 😄
Mugin16 · 46-50, M
@Bad4U The British promised the Arabs before their revolt against Ottoman rule that they would get a large Arab kingdom, consisting of the territories of modern Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine/Israel, Jordan. Maybe they even promised what is Saudi Arabia too (not sure). Needless to say the British made deal with the Zionists regarding Palestine and one with the French regarding Syria and Lebanon.
AngelofFail · 26-30, F
@Mugin16 they should have wiped out arabia then
Elessar · 31-35, M
Italy is too divided
Cierzo · M
@Elessar The strangest thing about Italy for me is Liguria and Corsica together making and independent land instead of being with Piemonte.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@Cierzo No one wants to be with the Ligurians, come on 👀😅 jk, there is a national stereotype that depicts them as extremely inhospitable/harsh. I don't know if the Corsicans have a similar "reputation"
Cierzo · M
@Elessar The Corsicans have a reputation of being harsh too. It may be a marriage made in heaven.
Bad4U · 22-25, F
this video is an animated development of the "southern victory" book series... an alternate history that changes one thing about the american civil wqar where a message isnt intercepted by the north and leads to the south winning the war and ficstional consequences up to a time bout the end of ww2... which happens in a diffent constellation etc

[media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwuUWpz6K4E]
SW-User
You like UK and Ireland together, is that because it worked so well the last time?
Cierzo · M
@SW-User The guy who made the map believes in second chances, Austro-Hungary and large parts of the former Yugoslavia are together again.
SW-User
@Cierzo Aye maybe Germany can give the Nazis a second chance also or maybe Spain can give the Moors a second chance Have southern Spain ruled from North Africa 🤷‍♂️
Cierzo · M
@SW-User I would give a second chance to a split Germany, and to a Greek Constantinople instead 😄
smiler2012 · 61-69
cierzo ha ha ha so you are trying to achieve what hitler and stalin never 😆 only kidding by the way 😆
Cierzo · M
@smiler2012 I did not make up the map 😄. But it made me smile to see some fellow with Austro-Hungarian nostalgia and wish to see Istambul being Christian again.
Bad4U · 22-25, F
whats the common thought of that thats a mix that in no way makes any sense...

if you go with an austro hungary why would there be an oder neisse border between northern germany and the plc ? how the fuck is germany partinioned like this anyway thats completely random...

this weird modavia, walachia transylvvania county...

and is this a yugoslavia with parts of hungary ?

whoever did this was a complete idiot or just randomnly put colors
Bad4U · 22-25, F
@Cierzo the person who drew this is an utter idiot...

and i say that as a fan of alternate histories, where alternate maps and countries are a big thing. but you usually go in a way that things make sense... this is is just someone randomy putting colors on a map
Cierzo · M
@Bad4U I don't think it is random. You can see likes and dislikes, as in any alternate map, but there are things with much sense in my opinion.
Bad4U · 22-25, F
@Cierzo he doesnt even get the border between naples and those weird papal states i assume right... thats not a thing about liking... thats ust incompetence

 
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