Are the global climate changes cause for alarm?

oh gyod people worry about it but of course no one wants to give up their own comfort, they want the other guy to do it.

The media is very good at creating all these scares. The world is going to end, the environment will be ruined, some horrible dictator will come, the antichrist will send us to hell, whatever.

Ask our administration’s climate czar, John Kerry. He flies on fossil fueled aircraft to climate change venues where in his profound hubris and stupidity has the temerity to chide the rest of us for not bowing and kneeling at the altar of climate change and kissing his ass.
He’s a hypocritical prick, but being married to wealth (Heinz) he does not have any credibility.

Maybe the 'science" part was tripping you up. When data is on the table scientists don't care about the outcome. They care about the process of getting to the outcome. If the FACTS weren't in place there would be no media coverage because it would be a non-issue. And if you've been 'persuaded' to question the science there's a reason for that. And in most all cases you can determine why that is on your own. [b]Consider the source.[/b] If you don't, sectors like the oil industry, which has spent BILLIONS trying to persuade people that they're being lied to, will win. But you won't.

Here's a response I wrote some time ago about CO2 and other factors affecting climate change. The quotes aren't you, they are somebody else with similar questions.

[quote]but I've yet to hear a rational explanation of how miniscule increases in an atmospheric trace gas such as CO2, causes the earth to warm.[/quote] It's because CO2 & methane are transparent to visible light but more opaque to infrared. The solar energy comes pouring in via the visible spectrum, but the heat can't leave so easily via the infrared spectrum due to that opacity. Kids' version:
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/explainer-co2-and-other-greenhouse-gases
idealized quantitative model: https://www.climate-policy-watcher.org/coriolis-force/a-simple-mathematical-model-of-the-greenhouse-effect.html

[quote] In order to actually prove human carbon emissions influence climate, all variables would have to remain constant[/quote] Nope. With multiple data points we can solve for multiple variables simultaneously. Detailed climate models account for all the variables you list and more. They are verified and calibrated based on 700,000 years of prior climate data.
http://web.mit.edu/globalchange/www/climate.html

[quote] Global warming models are based on small amounts of data. The earth is 4.6 billion years old, and we are expected to believe they can draw conclusions based on a hockey stick graph with 50 years of data?[/quote]
Nope, not 50 years, 800,000 years, covering about 7 ice ages. The climate data comes from bubbles in glacial ice, and is corroborated by data from lake & sea floor sediments.
https://icecores.org/about-ice-cores
CO2 & methane & temp data

Here's [i]where[/i] the various data sets were collected:

The most salient thing about the 800,000 years of climate data is the rate of change during those previous 7 ice ages compared to the current rate of change this century.

[quote] Where does the money for climate research come from?[/quote]
Fair question - it comes mostly from the National Science Foundation. Equally fair: where does the money for climate denial come from? The US oil industry makes about $110 [i]billion[/i] per year; coal another $20 billion. Big Oil spends $3.6 billion per year on advertising; a sum equal to about 8X the whole NSF climate budget. You're not naive enough to believe [i]none[/i] of that money goes to propaganda, are you?

Climate change is being pushed to tax us more and gain control, take our freedom away.

It’s just another government scam! Being pushed by the unelected world economic forum, who fly around the world in private jets! Dictating us bottom feeders need to eat bugs to change the weather!!!

Same ones are spraying crap out of planes to change the weather so the people will agree like zombies.

Ffs 🤦🏼‍♀️

Here's another way to look at managing anthropogenic climate change; thru the lenses of probability and cost benefit analysis.

The total stock capitalization of American businesses traded on the stock exchanges is $48 trillion. Someone on Quora calculated the land & resource value of the whole USA at $5000 trillion. So I don't think it's unreasonable to value US seaside land, buildings, & infrastructure at the very round number of $100 trillion.

8000 years of sea levels

[i]Average sea level rise since 1880[/i]
https://www.globalchange.gov/browse/indicators/global-sea-level-rise

[i]Local sea level rise, mm/year, as measured by GPS[/i]

If you are CEO of a $100 trillion corporation, and some of your people are telling you the whole thing could be flooded in 20 years or 40 years or whatever, what's the prudent thing to do? Answer: ask for cost benefit analyses.

This approach removes the whole "religious war" aspect of the question and focuses on insurance style calculations.

What are the cost estimates for protecting your $100 trillion from floods, and what's a reasonable probability estimate that the doomsayers are correct? The religious war approach pins those probabilities at 0% and 100%, but suppose you allow a 25% probability that the doomsayers are correct, or, alternatively, that they're only 25% correct (25% is just for the sake of argument; I'm not married to the figure).

With that assumption, you now have $25 trillion at risk, so what's the prudent amount to spend to insure that $25 trillion?

A quick google says homeowners insurance costs about $3300/yr for each $1 million of value. Scaling to $25 trillion, that works out to $82 billion per year, or a 12 year investment of about $1 trillion.

So there's nothing outlandish about a ten year one trillion dollar green energy plan, especially given that the plan includes plenty of jobs, infrastructure upgrades, and goods purchased from American businesses.

In the 70's they were worried about Global Cooling. Weather patterns fluctuate and the earth is always fine.

In short, I think it's all very blown out of proportion. Yes, I try to do my part to take care of the earth (like recycling) but I'm not freaked out about climate change

Take a look at Antarctica some time.

Look at the climate from 4 billion years ago, and the many changes with out the intervention of man. How do you explain the ice ages with out man? How do you explain it warming up again with out man? We are entering an ice age again. The temp changes around us does not change that fact.

yep, it is changing, its been cycling for billions of years. it will be cycling long after we are gone.

David Wallis-Wells The Uninhabitable Earth should be compulsory reading for all COP28 delegates, not as though they care

No one will ever convince a climate denier, not even in the final week of the human species

I mean even people dying of Covid in hospitals were denying they had Covid right up until the moment they died

It's the same, irrational mindset, these people who won't accept reality, it could be the environment, it could be public health, it could be literally any subject, this demographic is going to conjure a way to deny the reality of that subject (and most hilariously, keep falling back on blaming that old chestnut. "The Media", unless it's right wing media of course) ... which would be fine, if it only resulted in their own demise, but unfortunately idiots affect everyone and should be dealt with accordingly

Trying to characterize CO2 as a toxin or not a toxin shows you don't even grasp the basic fundamentals of a "greenhouse effect" but also just for sh*ts and giggles try breathing in a sealed room with nothing but CO2 and see how long you live.

At the very least, you have to admit that the climate is changing. Here in Britain, we still have our cold winters, which our homes are built to withstand - we have central heat... but we are also having hotter summers.

Our homes are not designed for the extreme heat that we're getting - and opening the windows is counter productive when the heat outside is akin to turning the oven on and opening the door.

Without intervention, people are going to die because they overheated or dehydrated. We've had a/c for decades now... yet, only some private households have been retrofitted with this technology - and certainly not many rental properties where our elderly and disabled live... people who might struggle to breathe and look after themselves in temperatures over 30 degrees.

Many work places do have a/c and most working age people can benefit from that during the hottest part of the day, even if it does mean letting the subcontractor working on the roof inside for his breaks so that he can cool down out of the heat - but, what about the elderly and disabled???

Everyone complains about the weather...
But no one wants to sacrifice a virgin to change it...........

Climate change should be a cause for concern and the general consensus in the scientific community is it’s bad for us. I believe the main issues surrounding it is the heavy disagreements or disregard of how to effectively handle climate change.

Relax

That depends on your politics. American people live under the pro warming regime of corporations that killed the ecosystem, the rest of the people in the world are, were, just not able to get in the way of the mass extinction killing project based in DC.
Duh!

it used to be called pollution and yes that is a huge problem...the anarctic and alaska were previously warm tropical areas according to fossils being found.

No. I will buy a heavier jacket or a new bikini whichever I need,

what's global mean? Worldwide?

The problem with challenging the theory of global warming is that ulterior motives for promoting the theory aren't very convincing. On the other hand, there are [i]huge[/i] motives for denying the theory, and big bucks behind it, but there's still widespread acceptance that carbon emissions are causing the problem

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After what I have seen what climate change has done to the Pacific Northwest in the United States in the past almost 30 years, only a fool would deny its existence.