Are the global climate changes cause for alarm?

I have been reading Climate Courage by Andreas Karelas upon finding it at a bargain store. This matter of global warming I had come to believe was something which has been blown out of proportion by the media. Could it be a collective hallucination that human industry is causing all these environmental changes? I have a feeling many want to deny the harmful effect humans have on the environment as it's too much of an inconvenience for them to think otherwise. On the other hand, I have been persuaded that some environmentalists are fabricating information to create a sense of alarm. Carbon dioxide has been this great obsession when it's not truly a toxin and I have yet to see any clear evidence that it's worthy of all the media attention and alarmist propaganda about how it's harming the global environment.

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Ynotisay · M

Maybe the 'science" part was tripping you up. When data is on the table scientists don't care about the outcome. They care about the process of getting to the outcome. If the FACTS weren't in place there would be no media coverage because it would be a non-issue. And if you've been 'persuaded' to question the science there's a reason for that. And in most all cases you can determine why that is on your own. [b]Consider the source.[/b] If you don't, sectors like the oil industry, which has spent BILLIONS trying to persuade people that they're being lied to, will win. But you won't.

Patriot96 · 56-60, C

@Ynotisay there are liars, there are damed liars, then there is statistics.
If you manipulate data its a lie

Ynotisay · M

@Patriot96 I don't live in your world dude. I've chosen reality and truth. But you enjoy your fee fees.

BlueGreenGrey ·

@Ynotisay Big Oil doesn't even give a damn what happens to their own families down the line

[u]https://www.npr.org/2023/12/11/1217802769/oil-prices-exxon-mobil-green-energy-solar-wind-cop28-climate-talks[/u]

But by all means, let's [i]also[/i] blame Biden for oil prices, or continue to blame Biden for "inflation" when we're already having [i]deflation[/i]

Ynotisay · M

@BlueGreenGrey And there you go. It's all so blatant and all so ignored by way too many. And yeah. Oil prices. You'd like to think that, at the VERY least, people would have some understanding of how prices are set. Nope. Doesn't happen. But we're supposed to respect all opinions? Nah. Hard pass.

BlueGreenGrey ·

@Ynotisay I agree, some "opinions" or "viewpoints" are just rubbish, but regardless, opinions never outweigh facts and reality. If our species is going to survive, without the idiots killing us all off, some people are going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming into acknowledging the fundamental difference between facts and opinions. There are few situations without facts, and baseless opinions deserve no seat at any table. Kick these f*ckers "off the island".

Ynotisay · M

@BlueGreenGrey Nailed it. That's also why I see AI having the potential to bring down societies. I'm not sure we're smart enough to handle what's coming.