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I guess it means a lot to some people.. i guess its an accomplishment of sorts..
Cyclist · 41-45, M
@SStarfish it’s not because it’s just a trophy. In most professional fields you need the knowledge to get a good job. Despite what people say, you cannot just learn what is out there on your own. You can in some fields, but not in highly technical or scholarly fields.
@Cyclist you can just learn stuff, a degree is just an official paper saying you learned it.. its basically an education reference.
Cyclist · 41-45, M
@SStarfish what “stuff” are you talking about? I have a BA and MS in physics. There is just no way I could have learned that on my own. I needed the guidance of my professors. I needed the help and encouragement from my peers. I needed the lab facilities.

akindheart · 61-69, F
yes it means a lot to me. i had no support and although i had some grants, i put myself through school with 2 sick kids. I got divorced in my senior year and my mom died. it means a lot that i was able to finish and graduate
akindheart · 61-69, F
@SlaveEt That is VERY kind of you. i just was focused on graduating and glad I did.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@WillaKissing hugs to my good friend.
WillaKissing · 56-60
@akindheart Thank you and returned hugs sweet lady.
A degree means nothing without experience.

People that flaunt it around are because theyre insecure and need something to feel credible and better about themselves.

I have 2 BS degrees, a masters degree and business minor.

All that means jack shit.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@Venturist you need the degree to open the door to get experience. people who don't even graduate high school don't realize that puts them behind even more
@akindheart that's a societal benefit. But ive met many people who havent gone to college but are much smarter than my colleagues..

So i dont respect anyone based on a piece of paper.. only results and proof of action
akindheart · 61-69, F
@Venturist it takes a little luck to get the right doors to open and yes there are some that have a natural talent for their avocation. but i needed a degree to get into my field. my degree is in history but it opened the right doors.
zonavar68 · 51-55, M
I don't have a degree and I've been working in railways since 1987. I tried to get an electrical engineering degree but I had no gap between year 12 of high school and starting work/uni so the uni side became a disaster since I was totally burned out from trying to get a great yr 12 result that could have got me into any uni degree course I wanted.

TBH degrees are not necessary or required to have a good life. Education can open doors/pathways if you want to go that way, but I have been forever turned off wanting to be any sort of manager that I have zero interest in climbing the corporate ladder.

I've never had any interest in going back to tertiary education.
zonavar68 · 51-55, M
@whowasthatmaskedman I'm more or less a subject matter expert for a few areas of my work just because of the experience and safety culture plus my interest in the engineering aspects.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@zonavar68 That qualifies you as "self educated" At this point if you went back to study those areas they might well give you an oral test to verify your expertise, then let you sit the exam and award you whatever diploma..😷
Cyclist · 41-45, M
@zonavar68 anyone who is unvaxxed for covid and proud of it probably could not benefit much from a higher degree, or even finish one for that matter. It does require critical thinking and knowledge of science.
Cyclist · 41-45, M
The people here saying no have no idea what it’s like to be an engineer, a scientist, a nurse, a physician, an accountant, an attorney, a data analyst, a teacher, or any other skilled profession. Trust me, you will need what you will learn in college unless you want to be restricted to entry level jobs like retail, hospitality, etc. The one exception might be small business owners. I’ve seen many who are self made because they learned their trade in some other way, but it must have been a difficult path.

Those here who say you don’t need a degree are most likely restricted to jobs for which you don’t need a degree, and don’t realize that the options can be much wider than that.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Cyclist So true..The degree you acquire incorporates a series of skills, PLUS it demonstrates a level of intellect capable of tackling the job competently..
Furthermore, there is a strong argument that simply acquiring any generalist college degree is the key to even getting your CV looked at for an interview. You have shown you have the potential to learn and the brain power to produce..😷
Cyclist · 41-45, M
@whowasthatmaskedman and to the point of what people are saying here, I don’t think it is possible to get the pile of textbooks corresponding to a degree and just learn on your own. At least in my case it was not. You need the guidance and the discussions. So, it is not just for the degree. It is actually for the knowledge content of going to college.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Cyclist I couldnt agree more. Knowledge can be acquired in isolation. But true wisdom is learned and expanded in company..😷
SlaveEt · 36-40, F
It has meaning for me yes, but I wouldn't say it's worth bragging about really. Pretty much everyone has a BA is psychology, lol, and it's not like I can really use it for much. To practice I'd have to have at least a Masters🤷🏼‍♀️
robertsnj · 56-60, M
@SlaveEt is practicing a future goal? what do you do for work now?
SlaveEt · 36-40, F
@robertsnj
No I don't plan to practice psychology in the future. Currently I am a stay at home slave and caregiver. I think at some point I will revive my pet sitting business I was starting while in high school. For now though I am content and fulfilled.
JohnnyNoir · 56-60, M
Yes. It opened a lot of doors for me especially since many of the people I interviewed with had graduated from the same department. I built a good network of contacts and got a great job as result.

As always though, a college degree is only as good as what you do with it
robertsnj · 56-60, M
Some of it did some of it did not. Have a BA in Bus Admin. The cash flow analysis, supply chain classes, economic classes and some of the theories have been h helpful in my professional life.

some of the tangent classes like Sociology and the language courses had an impact on my life but not necessarily my career.

Beyond that I have had to read and absorb large amounts of literature that isn't as intense as my college days, but probably would not have been possible for me if I wasn't stressed tested in college with the amount of reading required in a compact timeframe.

A lot of the classes, like English, Eng-Lit, History, Poly-Sci were not helpful even if their title suggested that they might be.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
I had the equivalent of a "free ride." That allowed me to go to medical school.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
People that throw their degrees in conversations should be laughed with...

Exceptions are: when a toppic is discussed that someone has actively done research in on an academic level. That's it.

My favorite sinners:

- Jordan Peterson, who apperently fills in the role of a political pundit under the guise of his responsiblity as a "clinician" (psychologist)

- Bill Warner, who writes books about how bad Islam and labels himself "PhD." on the book cover. While he's a PhD. in physics, giving historical, sociological, theological and political commentary.

- Steve Turley, who provides political, sociologal, historal commentary... but actually did Art studies. He also loves to put "Dr." in front of his name on the book cover that deals with political commentary.

- John Rosemond, who writes books about psychology, with children being his prime subject apprently. He at least doesn't put a title in front of his name on the book cover. But he does present himself, every time he can, as a "psychologist". Because he lives in a state [i](North-Carolina) [/i]where that title isn't protected. He doesn't own a PhD., he never did any studies that I know off that should grant him the title... But in North-Carolina, it's all cool. In his commentary, even though eagerly to label himself as an academic, he also ditches the entire scientific community except for the cherries that he likes. Which is totally in line with PragerU, the source where I found this weird gentleman... and a source that loves to portray people that like to slap you with credentials that they obtained in fields that they are either not working in or delivering commentary on.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Completing a degree involves sustained effort and a lot of commitment. People are generally passionate about the subject they studied and it's natural for them to seek people with a similar interest.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
My first degree in Engineering was never much used in any employment capacity but my 2nd degree and Masters were of use almost every day in a 35+ year Military career and still of use today.
Cyclist · 41-45, M
Yes. Very much so. I could not do my job and earn a living doing what I like without my college degree.
SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
@Cyclist Same.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
I suppose it gave me a background understanding of the elements in my field of work.
And I am able to make decisions based on certain recognised criteria I was taught.

But to be perfectly honest if I were more practical minded I could have been a Bricklayer or Carpenter or Plumber and although those professions suffer periods of work and unemployment, I could probably have earned ten times as much; travelled the world; had different/better life experiences
Bumbles · 51-55, M
I value them, but the idea of using them to make me feel superior in conversation is repugnant.
PleasurePunch · 100+
some people do just about anything and I am sorry that learning itself has become so commodified and monetized these days that its like... worthless

except that's not true! So just smile at people who try to impress that way, Its their insecurity talking

like its ok to hide behind any good luck and whatever came with that!
SW-User
It was an accomplishment, at the time, to finish college and have a degree. I didn't end up doing anything with it however. My "career", such as it was, went in a different direction.
HellsBelle · 36-40, F
WillaKissing · 56-60
I believe whatever a person earns is important to them, but it should not become their identity that dominates a conversation of life. It is awesome to be proud of one's accomplishments, but I do not believe it becomes your identity in regular life.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@WillaKissing Oh agreed, I just meant it matters to that specific group more than most 😊
WillaKissing · 56-60
@spjennifer Yeah, I know, and I am divorced from one of those type women, and she has to let everyone know how smart and accredited she is but was a terrible wife.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@WillaKissing Dr. So and so, meet Doctor So and so, neither of them are medical Doctors. I've been in a room where that happened at a conference once, one was a PHD in Philosophy and the other in English Lit 🤪 Imagine a whole room full of them, insufferable! 😵‍💫
Sure, I couldn't do the work I've been doing without what I learned in my major.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
I have 3, only one is important to me BSN
zonavar68 · 51-55, M
About as meaningless as wearing a suit to a job interview for a job where you won't be wearing a suit or collar/tie or equivalent women's office formal wear. Degrees just mean your real name is Wayne Kerr if the job doesn't require that level of education and you're presenting those quals to make you look superior.
Of course. It represents my competence and the foundation of my education in my chosen field of personal expertise. It also represents institutional and traditional support for study in that field. It's a handshake from society over my journey towards enlightened living.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
The critical thing to me is that it set the bar for my families expectations of education. Wife and myself both "broke the working class mold" and our kids followed. Now thats where the bar is for the grandkids.. And you "feel" educated with the paper..😷
HannahSky · F
It means a huge chunk of time I spent to get it and learn something. It is important.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Yes I have several. I only mention them if asked about them. No interest otherwise.
StrictLoving · 56-60, M
it means I engineer real good
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
Only in a job interview.

 
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