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samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Yes, I wish there was a way to let the physician know how bad they are. When i tried recently he denied everything I said.
saragoodtimes · F
@samueltyler2 the best way is to change doctors.. there's always going to be patients who aren't happy with their care. it goes with the territory
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@saragoodtimes my issue was probably not with the physician, since I have no idea if he ever received my message. But with availability for electronic communication to not receive either a call back nor a electronic message, i have to believe it was his staff that screwed up. They are good at teaching out for bill payment, and I get myriads of messages on MyChart about all sorts of irrelevant things, I am appalled at what modern.mrdicine has become. It is certainly not how I was taught, nor how i conducted my practice.
saragoodtimes · F
@samueltyler2 it's going to get worse in years to come with a shortage of doctors and nurses. haven't decided yet it Katie following her father is a good move
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@saragoodtimes only one of my three chose to follow in my footsteps.
saragoodtimes · F
@samueltyler2 sounds like yours has done well, don't know what the future of medicine is with so many pushing for socialized medicine
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@saragoodtimes I spent 2 years in the Navy, true in 1970-72, we practiced optimal.medicine, never had to worry about costs. We weren't paid very high wages, but it was adequate. I lived on grants, had to fight the institution at times, but still got to practice great medicine. I don't think there will ever be a single payer system in the US, of that is how you define socialized medicine.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@samueltyler2 You can leave a complaint with the staff but it will go nowhere. One can look up a physician's home address on your county clerk's property records. I've written old school letters with my concerns and mailed them to their homes. Do doctors care or notice when long time patients disappear?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Crazywaterspring these sort of complaints don't rise to malpractice, so complaining does no good. One of the problems is that when I was younger, my physicians were colleagues and we treated each other as friends, not that we didn't do similar with our patients, now that I am older, many of those who treated me are either retired or deceased. the newer generation of physicians, although many are deeply in debt, consider the "style of life" more important then their practices.
saragoodtimes · F
@samueltyler2 economists figure one needs $125000 a year to live in these times. about what a new doctor makes. we'd starve on that
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@saragoodtimes Those of us lucky to be living at our current level should be careful what we say and how we act. Saying we would starve at an income of $125,000 makes us look a bit like cry-babies.
I have not seen that $125,000 number anywhere, the current poverty level is no where near tha amount, someone living with that income would probably be considered wealthy by most US citizens:
\https://tcf.org/content/report/defining-economic-deprivation-need-reset-poverty-line/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjws560BhCuARIsAHMqE0EBuDCCWTSe66AMX67OxgeDgU6IEdDaSL1IURbiltGmPNzTCYo8aQYaApgwEALw_wcB
probably better would be listing of current average salaries by states, in your state the average income is about $58k:
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/average-salary-by-state/
Having said that, the average medical student is deeply im debt upon graduation:
"The average medical school debt is $202,453, excluding premedical undergraduate and other educational debt. The average medical school graduate owes $250,995 in total student loan debt. 73% of medical school graduates have educational debt. 31% of indebted medical school graduates have premedical educational debt.Sep 17, 2023"
I have not seen that $125,000 number anywhere, the current poverty level is no where near tha amount, someone living with that income would probably be considered wealthy by most US citizens:
\https://tcf.org/content/report/defining-economic-deprivation-need-reset-poverty-line/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjws560BhCuARIsAHMqE0EBuDCCWTSe66AMX67OxgeDgU6IEdDaSL1IURbiltGmPNzTCYo8aQYaApgwEALw_wcB
probably better would be listing of current average salaries by states, in your state the average income is about $58k:
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/average-salary-by-state/
Having said that, the average medical student is deeply im debt upon graduation:
"The average medical school debt is $202,453, excluding premedical undergraduate and other educational debt. The average medical school graduate owes $250,995 in total student loan debt. 73% of medical school graduates have educational debt. 31% of indebted medical school graduates have premedical educational debt.Sep 17, 2023"