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atlantic59 · 61-69, M
I had a neigbour who rebelled against mask mandates
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@atlantic59 and???
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@atlantic59 Yeah? What happened? Did he get sick?
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire Or more importantly, did he make anyone else sick? I know you probably can’t tell, but that’s the issue.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@FreddieUK Yeah, that definitely is the issue. Because that's how I got sick, was somebody who didn't respect social distancing or mask wearing. I was in a convenience store, looking through the drink cooler for a Coke Zero. Found what I wanted and took a half a step back, and this guy was standing so goddamn close we collided. Sure enough, next day I was sick. Meaning he was sick at the time he was standing way too damn close, breathing on me.
My dad almost died because that guy sent me home with it. And he probably thought it was no big deal, even if he did get someone else sick. You just never know who you're hurting when you behave carelessly.
My dad almost died because that guy sent me home with it. And he probably thought it was no big deal, even if he did get someone else sick. You just never know who you're hurting when you behave carelessly.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@LordShadowfire
It is highly unlikely that you contracted your COVID from the guy in the convenience store; the incubation period is longer than one day.
"On average, symptoms showed up in the newly infected person about 5.6 days after contact. Rarely, symptoms appeared as soon as 2 days after exposure. Most people with symptoms had them by day 12. And most of the other ill people were sick by day 14. In rare cases, symptoms can show up after 14 days. Researchers think this happens with about 1 out of every 100 people."
https://www.webmd.com/covid/coronavirus-incubation-period
It is highly unlikely that you contracted your COVID from the guy in the convenience store; the incubation period is longer than one day.
"On average, symptoms showed up in the newly infected person about 5.6 days after contact. Rarely, symptoms appeared as soon as 2 days after exposure. Most people with symptoms had them by day 12. And most of the other ill people were sick by day 14. In rare cases, symptoms can show up after 14 days. Researchers think this happens with about 1 out of every 100 people."
https://www.webmd.com/covid/coronavirus-incubation-period
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Thinkerbell
It is highly unlikely that you contracted your COVID from the guy in the convenience store; the incubation period is longer than one day.
Well, then maybe he caught it from me by being a careless idiot. In which case, good.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@LordShadowfire
Perhaps so... you almost certainly were a COVID carrier at the time.
Hey, Ellie! @ElwoodBlues Where are you?
I thought you didn't like anecdotes! 😂 🤣
Perhaps so... you almost certainly were a COVID carrier at the time.
Hey, Ellie! @ElwoodBlues Where are you?
I thought you didn't like anecdotes! 😂 🤣
ElwoodBlues · M
@Thinkerbell Correction: I don't like implying statistical conclusions based on anecdotes. Using one's personal circle to imply that a bad case of Covid was an outlier is an example of what I dislike.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@ElwoodBlues
But LSF claiming that that he caught COVID from a no-mask, non-social-distanced guy in a convenience store, and showed symptoms the very next day is perfectly ok, eh? 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣
But LSF claiming that that he caught COVID from a no-mask, non-social-distanced guy in a convenience store, and showed symptoms the very next day is perfectly ok, eh? 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣
ElwoodBlues · M
@Thinkerbell LordShadowfire has conceded his error, and he never tried to draw statistical conclusions from it. And I never saw this thread until very recently. Your expectation that I would be policing everything said about Covid on SW is just silly.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@ElwoodBlues
But he DID in an earlier thread on this post when he tried to deny my (sourced) comment that COVID cannot be distinguished from flu by symptoms alone, on the basis of his personal experience with COVID alone.
And of course you registered no objection to that. 😂 🤣
Wrong again, Ellie.
My expectation didn't require you to police "everything said about Covid on SW." It just required you to pay attention to what was said on this post.😂 🤣 😂 🤣
"LordShadowfire has conceded his error, and he never tried to draw statistical conclusions from it."
But he DID in an earlier thread on this post when he tried to deny my (sourced) comment that COVID cannot be distinguished from flu by symptoms alone, on the basis of his personal experience with COVID alone.
And of course you registered no objection to that. 😂 🤣
"Your expectation that I would be policing everything said about Covid on SW is just silly."
Wrong again, Ellie.
My expectation didn't require you to police "everything said about Covid on SW." It just required you to pay attention to what was said on this post.😂 🤣 😂 🤣
ElwoodBlues · M
@Thinkerbell Actually, back in the pre-vaccine days, flu & Covid could often be differentiated by the sudden loss of taste or smell, which was unique to COVID-19 and affected up to 80% of those infected by Covid.
https://www.ama-assn.org/about/publications-newsletters/loss-smell-post-covid-how-severe-it-and-how-long-can-it-last
https://www.ama-assn.org/about/publications-newsletters/loss-smell-post-covid-how-severe-it-and-how-long-can-it-last
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@ElwoodBlues
From your link:
It doesn't say anything about a smell test distinguishing COVID from flu as part of an initial diagnosis.
From your link:
"In this cohort study, 1,111 of 1,393 SARS-CoV-2-infected participants who reported loss in or change of smell or taste a mean of two years after infection (80%) had hyposmia on formal testing, a total of 321 (23%) had severe microsmia or anosmia, and the mean age- and sex-standardized score was at the 16th percentile. Hyposmia was also present in 1,031 of 1,563 participants (66%) with prior infection but no self-reported change or loss (mean: 23rd percentile).
Meaning: These findings suggest that occult hyposmia following infection with SARS-CoV-2 is common, and olfactory testing should be considered after infection to diagnose olfactory dysfunction and counsel patients about the risks of smell loss."
Meaning: These findings suggest that occult hyposmia following infection with SARS-CoV-2 is common, and olfactory testing should be considered after infection to diagnose olfactory dysfunction and counsel patients about the risks of smell loss."
It doesn't say anything about a smell test distinguishing COVID from flu as part of an initial diagnosis.
ElwoodBlues · M
@Thinkerbell From the very first paragraph:
BUT WAIT!! THERE'S MORE!!!
The whole thrust of all your claims here is that Covid could not be distinguished from the flu; not by severity nor by symptoms. Those claims are not supported in the medical literature.
Also see:
About 80% of people with acute SARS-CoV-2 infection during the original and Alpha waves of the COVID-19 pandemic reported losing their sense of smell. That olfactory loss is not just a nuisance, it can lead to weight loss, worsen patients’ quality of life and impedes their ability to identify dangers such as gas leaks, smoke or spoiled food.
BUT WAIT!! THERE'S MORE!!!
Is loss of sense of smell a diagnostic marker in COVID‐19: A systematic review and meta‐analysis
Olfactory dysfunction has been shown to be the strongest predictor of COVID‐19 positivity when compared to other symptoms in logistic regression analysis. In patients who had tested positive for COVID‐19, there was a prevalence of 62% of OD. In populations of patients who are currently reporting OD, there is a positive predictive value of 61% for a positive COVID‐19 result.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7436734/Olfactory dysfunction has been shown to be the strongest predictor of COVID‐19 positivity when compared to other symptoms in logistic regression analysis. In patients who had tested positive for COVID‐19, there was a prevalence of 62% of OD. In populations of patients who are currently reporting OD, there is a positive predictive value of 61% for a positive COVID‐19 result.
The whole thrust of all your claims here is that Covid could not be distinguished from the flu; not by severity nor by symptoms. Those claims are not supported in the medical literature.
Also see:
Loss of taste and smell and COVID-19 FAQs
Q: Is loss of taste and smell a symptom of COVID?
A: Yes, loss of taste and smell, also known as anosmia and ageusia, is a common symptom of COVID-19. Studies have shown that many people with COVID-19 experience a loss of taste and smell, often without other symptoms such as fever, cough, or difficulty breathing. In some cases, anosmia may be the only symptom of COVID-19, particularly in mild cases or asymptomatic individuals.
Q: When does loss of taste and smell occur with COVID-19?
A: While loss of taste and smell can occur at any stage of COVID-19 infection, it’s commonly reported as one of the early symptoms. In general, the median time from the onset of symptoms to the development of loss of smell and taste is 2-3 days in COVID-19 patients.
Q: Is loss of taste and smell a symptom of COVID?
A: Yes, loss of taste and smell, also known as anosmia and ageusia, is a common symptom of COVID-19. Studies have shown that many people with COVID-19 experience a loss of taste and smell, often without other symptoms such as fever, cough, or difficulty breathing. In some cases, anosmia may be the only symptom of COVID-19, particularly in mild cases or asymptomatic individuals.
Q: When does loss of taste and smell occur with COVID-19?
A: While loss of taste and smell can occur at any stage of COVID-19 infection, it’s commonly reported as one of the early symptoms. In general, the median time from the onset of symptoms to the development of loss of smell and taste is 2-3 days in COVID-19 patients.