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Covid just my thoughts and my experience.

COVID can cause problems. And the vaccine can cause problems. So I stayed unvaccinated. As far as I know I never had Covid but have been not feeling right for like two years and was sick often. I seem to have gotten better now. But things are different still for me. But then again things change with age. It seems a catch 22 thing to me.
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
I personally believe the Chinese made it as a weapon and then released it upon the world. Then claimed it was an accident i think it was purposely done in hopes of hurting other countries economies
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@TheRascallyOne It didn't need a virus to do that. The west has been moving all its production to China for decades. All the virus did was close down markets which is not good for China.
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
@hippyjoe1955 Do you know what a bear trap is?
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spjennifer · 56-60, T
As a Nursing Director in a medium sized Hospital, all of our personnel have had to get vaccinated regularly, many of our Nurses and Doctors got Covid despite being vaccinated but not one of them died from it. Much too frequently we saw patients ending up dying in the ICU, begging us to vaccinate them, but it was far too late by then for most of them. We didn't see or hear of anyone here having problems [i]because[/i] of the vaccines. Some chose not to get vaccinated and ended up losing their jobs because of it. Due to new variants of COVID-19 happening about every 6 months, I suspect we'll be needing vaccinations every year for the foreseeable future, the same as flu shots...
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@sree251 You're welcome. I will say this, once a significant number of the entire World's population were vaccinated, the death toll dropped to the point where it is in line with most annual Flu bugs. Yes, people are still dying from it but the numbers are nowhere near what they were in the first few months, anywhere. As the virus morphs and new strains develop, we will need new vaccines to combat them too. Eventually, the majority of the population will develop antibodies to [i]most[/i] strains by natural exposure and the vaccines but may not have to the newer more virulent variants.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@spjennifer [quote]once a significant number of the entire World's population were vaccinated, the death toll dropped to the point where it is in line with most annual Flu bugs[/quote]
That statement infers the vaccine is responsible for the fall but it fails to take in any other considerations such as the most vulnerable already having died. There are a myriad of other factors you have failed to take into account and you are posting this as if it comes from some authority, it is your personal opinion and I'd hazard to say an incorrect one.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@GeniUs

[quote]That statement infers the vaccine is responsible for the fall but it fails to take in any other considerations such as the most vulnerable already having died. [/quote]

Interesting then that the drop in the death rates coincided with the vaccine being made available worldwide. The "most vulnerable" don't just die off, they are replaced daily as people age and new ones become the "most vulnerable" so your statement is invalid. Not sure where your information comes from but mine comes from 30+ years as an RN and being on the front lines in a medium-sized Hospital during the worst days of Covid. What "other factors" am I not taking into account? Comorbidities, anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theories? No, I'm not an "Authority" on Pandemics, nor Biomedicine but I am an authority on the care of patients in a Hospital setting and I base my opinion on what I've seen happen to actual patients, not on what I've read or heard or watched online...
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Jonjdw This link shows the number of Covid death in each State for the years 2020 and 2021 =

[b]COVID-19 Mortality by State[/b]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/covid19_mortality_final/COVID19.htm.

The bad news is that we will all die but the good new is that only one thing will kill us. So, if you don't want to get vaccinated against Covid you might die as a result or else you could die in a car accident or from a heart attack. Maybe some of the people who died from Covid would have wished that they had gotten vaccinated so that they would have died from something else.

Personally, I get my recommended vaccinations and haven't had any negative consequences as a result. I now have cancer, but I don't expect that it will kill me. I haven't been sick from any cause so far.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@TheRascallyOne [quote]Did you say you have cancer?[/quote]
Yes,I have prostate cancer. It is still local. I hope to start a series of 20 radiation treatments in April but I first have to get an estrogen hormone shot to reduce my testosterone level. I wanted to get it removed but the urologist wouldn't do it. The radiation treatment is supposed to be very effective. It's a daily exposure five times a week for four weeks. I just had a PET scan (Positron emission tomography (PET) scan)
https://cancer.ca/en/treatments/tests-and-procedures/positron-emission-tomography-pet-scan#:~:text=PET%20scans%20detect%20areas%20of,imaging%20and%20lab%20test%20results. The retail cost was $11,849.80 but it only cost me a $60 co-payment, which was high because it was done out of my network. After I complete the radiation treatment I will get a follow-up visit in 6 months to see if I've been cured.
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
@Diotrephes I'm so sorry to hear that.I wish you nothing but the best. "Hugs"
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@TheRascallyOne [quote]I'm so sorry to hear that.I wish you nothing but the best. "Hugs"[/quote]
Thank you for your concern. Right now I'm in good shape and not sick or feeling bad, other than the usual wear and tear issues on the skelton.
People with natural antibodies also regularly get re-infected with 2nd cases of Covid. Turns out the best protection is "hybrid" immunity - having had both vaccine and an infection - provides the best protection against re-infection and against severe disease if re-infected.

[b]https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/228/10/1311/7245175[/b]
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
You were smart not to get jabbed. Everyone I know that got jabbed has had some lingering bad effect from the jab. in fact I know of 5 people who died from the jab. I don't know anyone who was unjabbed that was even in the hospital with COVID.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 Who is behind this?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@sree251 Ultimately Satan.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 I know it is Satan. Who has the Devil possessed and using to depopulate the human race?
Kstrong · 56-60, F
I chose not to get vaccinated, did get COVID, only suffered lethargy, now have my own natural antibodies
Northwest · M
@Kstrong for about 3 to 6 months
Kstrong · 56-60, F
@Northwest lethargy for about three weeks, getting stronger each day after
Fairydust · F
Covid was created to give people the vaccine, they own the media that pushed it all.

You have to know the history of it all to understand what’s really going on.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
Everybody will have their own opinions about Covid and I doubt any argument is going to change anybody's mind, I chose to be unvaccinated but there were so many issues that have been brushed over that getting truthful information on the whole thing is almost impossible.
One of my questions is since Covid was a big issue for over a year and the vaccines seemed to have no effect on people catching it or not, why is it no longer the same big problem? The vaccines didn't kill it and were only effective for 4 months, it supposedly kept mutating (if you believe that) so why is it no longer an issue any more than potentially catching flu?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GeniUs [quote]The vaccine does not prevent catching Covid.
The vaccines have not been independently tested and proved to save people from dying of Covid, (it's probably a placebo).
if you are to believe those figures how many people were vaccinated when they died.
Do you know anybody who had adverse side effects after being vaccinated, bad enough to seek medical help and to be told to 'just live with it'? Take a moment to think for yourself and don't just swallow what governments want you to do.[/quote]

I've had all of my Covid shots as well as annual flu shots for years and have never had any side effects from them. I did get the shivers from my last shingles shot, but that is a well-known side effect from the shingles vaccine. If you get a shingles shot do it when you will be off for several days.

One of the things that seem to be leading the resistance to the Covid shots is the reluctance of ultra-Orthodox Jews' refusal to get vaccinations.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10602685/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7778477/

[b]The Right to Die: Jewish Anti-Vaxxers and the Limits of Rabbinic Authority[/b]
"Anti-vaccination movements have been around for as long as there have been vaccinations. Among the earliest anti-vaxxers was an English Jew named Joseph Levy (1838–1913) who wrote two short books against vaccinations and argued for a religious exemption for Jews. This may have been the first example of a Jew claiming a religious exemption from vaccination. Vaccine denial has been documented across Europe, Asia, and the United States, and it is not surprising that it is also espoused in some Jewish communities."
https://academic.oup.com/book/44852/chapter-abstract/385053271?redirectedFrom=fulltext

[b]An Outbreak Spreads Fear: Of Measles, of Ultra-Orthodox Jews, of Anti-Semitism[/b]
A measles outbreak in a New York suburb has sickened scores of people and stoked long-smoldering tensions between the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community and the secular world at large.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/nyregion/measles-jewish-community.html

[b]"Haredi Jews were less likely to vaccinate than other Orthodox Jews but more likely to have had COVID-19 and believe vaccination was unnecessary. Distrust of COVID-19 information from health experts was high across communities, highest for Haredi Jews"[/b]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10597228/#:~:text=Haredi%20Jews%20were%20less%20likely,communities%2C%20highest%20for%20Haredi%20Jews.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@Diotrephes yep, none of that is relevant to, I'm going to speculatively say 95% of the population.
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Handfull1 · 61-69, F
Well said. It definitely is!
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
Everyone has to make their own choice with that.
calicuz · 51-55, M
Attan All: First go watch the 2011 film "Contagion," and then tell me if you still believe that Covid started in China via a Bat.
Northwest · M
How is this to COVID?
Jonjdw · 46-50, M
@Northwest it’s not it’s a post on my thoughts about Covid.
They lied.. ppl died.
SandWitch · 26-30, F
You more than likely have contracted Covid and because it's symptomatic effects have stayed with you for at least 2 years now, you probably have what's known as 'long-Covid'.

 
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